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Your accusations of lying are recent, so is my post.

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You show that you do not know what has really happened and how far back it happened.

I find this to be common among ya’ll.

Hey pal, your fake southern drawl and use of the word "y'all" is absolutely laughable. I know you're trying to make an underhanded insult against the Baptists who killed ole joe, but it doesn't work with me.

I am from UTAH. Born in Idaho, raised in UTAH, and lifelong devout mormon, until recently when I resigned. I AM A DIRECT DESCENDANT OF MARTIN HARRIS, ONE OF THE 3 WITNESSES IN THE BOOK OF MORMON.

You still haven't answered my question. Because of the words of Christ below, I utterly reject your assertion that it's MY DUTY to determine if YOUR FOUNDERS were speaking as men or prophets.

But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
For by thy words thou shalt be justified and by thy words thou shalt be condemned. (Matthew 12:36-37)