Posted on 03/26/2009 7:07:18 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
That's it in a nutshell. Well said.
One thing is clear you have an agenda, those down ticket losses would have been much worse if McCain had not chosen the one politician in America as his veep that kept this election from being a total catastrophe.
Weren’t you a Huckabee die hard?
The polls did show that most independents were not positive on Palin. That was not surprising due to Fey's characterization of Palin which had a significant negative impact. However, most of those independents were going to vote against McInsane anyway.
It would have been theoretically interesting if McInsane had selected Lieberman on the ticket, but I suspect the results would have been the same except for losing some conservatives and gaining some independents.
The main reasons the GOP lost were 1. McInsane and 2. Bush.
That's possible, but again, there's no way to put hard numbers on it. Would conservatives have stayed home and allowed Obama to get elected unchallenged? I guess it's possible, but there is no way of knowing for sure.
Any conservative who would have failed to vote in Congressional elections merely because they didn't like the Presidential candidate are pathetic creatures, in my view. I was voting for Scott Garrett no matter what.
Werent you a Huckabee die hard?
Nope. I started out as none of the above, hoping someone would emerge other than the pathetic field we had. When Fred popped up, I checked him out, quickly sized him up for what he was--a waste of time--and kept watching. My vote didn't come til Super Tuesday, so I had the luxury of time.
By Super Tuesday, the conservative pundits were advising a vote for Romney as the only way to stop McCain. So, I voted for Romney. It turned out to be a waste of time, but oh well.
The one thing I did say about Huckabee at the time was that out of all the candidates, he was the craftiest and the cagiest. He didn't have the establishment support of McCain, or Romney's money, but he made what he had go a long way. He was tagged as a nannystater early on, and rejected by the base as a whole. But he had the most skill when it came to communication, generating news, etc.
Well, I guess what they say is true in your case: De Nile ain’t just a river in Egypt.
I agree with your assessment completely.
No we can't prove it, it is opinion, but we can show that before the talking heads got to work reflecting your biases, the consensus immediately after the debate did not fit your extremely negative view, in fact many thought she won.
Even democrat strategist Kirsten Powers and liberal pundit Mort Kondracki gave the debate to Sarah Palin. Kondracki said She connected with the average American while Joe Biden talked in Senate-speak. Powers said Biden didnt commit any major gaffes, but she (Palin) got the better of it.
The Frank Luntz focus group comprised of independents half of whom voted for John Kerry in 2004, overwhelmingly said Palin won the debate. While a dozen or more said Palin changed their minds and they now support McCain, only one person in the group said he changed his mind in support of Obama.
You’re probably right. But her ability to draw Obama-sized crowds and get people excited showed me something. I still think if she declares she’s running she’s going to have a nice sized war-chest to work with.
Sarah Palin saved GOP from landslide defeat
By Dick Morris
“a) Sarah Palin made a vast difference in McCains favor. Compared to 2004, McCain lost 11 points among white men, according to the Fox News exit poll, but only four points among white women. Obamas underperformance among white women, evident throughout the fall, may be chalked up, in large part, to the influence of Sarah Palin. She provided a rallying point for women who saw their political agenda in terms larger than abortion. She addressed the question of what it is like to be a working mother in todays economy and society and resonated with tens of millions of white women who have not responded to the more traditional, and liberal, advocates for their gender.”
Well it took several posts but you finally got around to yet again maligning Sarah Palin.
It is nothing less than ludicrous, as well as a lie, to state she is not a leader and that she lacks credibility. And please don't deny that it is Sarah Palin you refer to.
In the future why don't you just state in your initial post on all threads related to Gov. Palin:
Hi, I loathe Sarah Palin. She can never reach the presidency, she is not qualified, she is too polarizing. Whether any of this is true or not doesn't matter. Thank you, Huck
After the economy went pearshaped in the last month, their was no way the Republicans had any chance of winning, whoever the candidates.
I don’t loathe Sarah Palin. She seems quite likable. But you are right, I don’t think she is presidential material. I think she’s perfect right where she is. Perhaps she’d make a good energy secretary. That’d be an appropriate place for her. But I guess we’ll all get a chance to find out in a few years, won’t we? I look forward to seeing her debate other GOP candidates.
She seemed to place most of the blame on the press.Case proved no questions needed.
I don't think it is a good idea to make them the “enemy”, but she is under fire 24/7. I don't see how she'll overcome the negatives and be electable.
The Femmes hate her. She is their perfect woman - and a conservative. Can't let em off the plantation can we ladies?
Oh, come on. The electorate is just fine. How they stand up to the barrage of propaganda as is, is amazing.
For example, I'm not stunned that most sheep - oops I mean people - believe in the global warming hoax - I'm amazed so many are willing to stand up to the machine and say NO. NO IT'S NOT TRUE. EVERY NEWSPAPER, EVERY HOOLLYWOOD MOVIE, EVERY "NEWS" MAGAZINE PUSHES THE SAME LIES - and yet some stand up to the bullshit. The electorate stands up to one liberal hoax after another.
They stood up to Club of Rome. They stood up to "The Population Bomb", they stood up to Global Warming. Against all odds.
And they'll stand up to the next one - the freaky "we're all going to die of thirst" crap that's next. So Pleeeeze - don't put the American electorate down - they're amazing in the face of overwhelming propaganda.
no, the local elections benefitted with a conservative on the ticket in preventing greater losses.
Yes mccain lost by 6, but it is 6 rather than 16.
This is no different than the year Dole ran an incompetent camapaign KNEW he was going to lose and spent time in California in order to help local candidates.
As to the debate, plugs didn't know the order of constitutional provisions for what office, eats at a diner closed for ten years and had about 22 errors during the debate. Palin was correct on most issues and replies.
I don’t think I could ever get tired of looking at photos of Governor Palin.
And I just emailed the RNC to encourage them to get behind Governors Palin and Jindal and to fight back when the media tries to villify them. (there was an implied “or else” in there, too)
Huck, it seems like you’re trying a bit too hard to push your point. We all know the results of the last election. It seems like you’re trying to pick a fight with the people who are big supporters of Governor Palin. Perhaps it would be a good time to just let it go, yes? Save your energy for fighting against those on the left that we all truly oppose. Thanx.
You must know plenty of idiot liberals. (I know that’s a redundant statement). But I know a some moderates who like Sarah. To say she hurt the McCain ticket is an overstatement.
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