Posted on 03/25/2009 9:04:00 AM PDT by TaraP
I want no part of any god that, as Exodus states, participates in “...visiting the iniquity of fathers on the children and on the grandchildren to the third and fourth generations.”
By that standard, there are virtually none of us who are exempt from God wreaking a misplaced agression on us for sins committed by family members in the past.
And that includes you too!
Again...I never said this was Poetic Justice..
I said GOD can take trajedy, all trajedy’s and can make them a blessing...No I do not believe GOD made the plane crash, however it did..What is the message??? Maybe the trjaedy of Abortion the loss of life.....
PSLAMS 23:
The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.
He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name’s sake.
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.
Where is the Sting of Death?
Since we are all interconnected (we are ALL sinners), this is meant as a lesson for ALL of us. We must repent from our sins and turn to God. This isn’t punishment (necessarily) for those that died but it is a sign to all of us that we must recognize God’s soverienty and power.
Well......
Well put.
Well, in that case, moron, why are you worrying about abortion..
And you call yourself a *Christian*
“For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander.” Matthew 15:19
He who conceals his hatred has lying lips, and whoever spreads slander is a fool. When words are many, sin is not absent, but he who holds his tongue is wise. The tongue of the righteous is choice silver, but the heart of the wicked is of little value. The lips of the righteous nourish many, but fools die for lack of judgment.” Proverbs 10:18-21
It sickens me that seven gorgeous, innocent toddlers died in stark terror and I would be just as accurate if I said the "...DEFINITE message being communicated..." was from Satan.
The individual hearts and souls of the mothers who murdered their unborn children deserve the message, unfortunately they probably won't get it.
And it is clearly written that God has NO place in his eternal kingdom for the morally relative or the spiritually deprived.
You have lost your mind. I made none of the points you yipped about. Beat it, loon.
God is the same yesterday, today and in the future.
How many warnings did he give Pharoah in the Old Testament?
Plague #1: Nile Turned to Blood
Moses and Aaron, Moses’ spokesman, met the Pharaoh on the shore of the Nile River. Aaron had earlier turned his walking stick into a snake but the King’s magicians had been able to duplicate that. Moses told Pharaoh that he would show him God’s power.
Aaron held his stick over the river and the water turned into blood. The fish all died and there was blood everywhere in Egypt where there should have been water. The king’s magicians were able to duplicate the feat and Pharaoh refused Moses’ request.
Plague #2: Frogs
God told Moses: “Go to the king and tell him that the Lord says, ‘Let my people go, so that they can worship me. If you refuse, I will punish your country by covering it with frogs.’” (Ex.8: 1,2) So Aaron held his walking stick over the river and an abundance of frogs came out onto the land. They were everywhere, even in the palace. The magicians were able to repeat the trick but Pharaoh had to summon Moses and ask him to get rid of the frogs.
Pharaoh promised to let the people go if Moses would ask his God to remove the frogs. The frogs were removed but the king changed his mind and refused to let Moses lead them out.
Plague #3: Gnats
Aaron struck the ground with his stick and all the dust of Egypt was turned into gnats. There were gnats everywhere and the magicians of Egypt could not duplicate it. The magicians told Pharaoh that God had done it but he refused to let the people go.
Plague #4: Flies
Moses and Aaron approached the king again to let the Israelites go and worship in the desert. He threatened the Pharaoh with an infestation of flies if he didn’t comply. This time a distinction was made between the Egyptians and the Jews. The flies would not bother the Jews. The next day God sent flies everywhere in Egypt except Goshen, where the Israelites were.
Pharaoh promised to let the people go if Moses would just get rid of the flies. Moses prayed to God and every fly died. The King remained stubborn and still would not let them go.
Plague #5: Plague on Cattle
The next disaster was the death of all of the Egyptian’s livestock, horses, sheep, camels, goats, donkeys and cattle. None of the Israelite’s animals were touched. The king remained steadfast and would not let them go.
Plague #6: Boils
The Lord told Moses to take a handful of ashes from a furnace and throw the ashes up into the air. The ash spread all over Egypt and everyone had boils and open sores. The magicians would not come to the king because they were too sore with their boils. The king remained adamant because now God was making him stubborn.
Plague #7: Hail
A massive hailstorm was next on the agenda. The king was warned that everyone should stay inside to avoid being killed by hailstones. The hail destroyed the crops in the field and killed the people who didn’t heed the warning. It hailed everywhere in Egypt except Goshen.
Pharaoh begged Moses to ask God to stop the hail and he would let the people go. Moses prayed and the hail stopped but Pharaoh still would not let them go.
Plague #8: Locusts
Moses and Aaron went to see Pharaoh again. Pharaoh was willing to let the Jewish men go into the desert to worship, but not the women and children. Moses refused and the king denied his request. So God sent a cloud of locusts that covered the land and ate everything that the hail had not destroyed. “Not a green thing was left on any tree or plant in all the land of Egypt.” (Ex. 10: 15) God continued to harden Pharaoh’s heart and he would not let the people go.
Plague #9: Darkness
God told Moses to raise his hand toward the sky and darkness would fall on Egypt. There was total darkness in all of Egypt for three days. Only the children of Israel had light. Pharaoh offered to let the people go but not their animals. Moses refused that offer and the king told him that he never wanted to see him again.
Plague #10: Death of the Firstborn
Moses told the king that every firstborn would be killed. Everyone from the Pharaoh’s son to the slave woman’s son would die. God instructed Moses to tell his people to make sure every household had a lamb or goat, a one-year-old male without any defects. On the given day, they were to slaughter, cook and eat the animal and put its blood on their doorposts. The angel of death would see the blood when he came to kill the firstborn and would “pass over” when he saw the blood. All of the firstborn of people and animals of the Egyptians died that night and Pharaoh sent the Israelites away.
The children who died in the crash are innocent and I will never be convinced that God caused the crash as an act of vengence (sp) upon the blood on their grandfather’s hands. If I follow that logic then I would also have to believe that if the children/grandchildren of abortion providers prosper that God is giving a nod of approval to the sin of abortion.
God is judge and His judgment will be visited upon the killers of the innocent. Maybe not in our time but in His. Till then we labor to bring the Light of His Word to the world so that hearts may be turned and mended.
Your reply is completely irrelevent to my previous post.
While it may be clearly written (as you state it) that God has no place for the morally relative or spiritually deprived, that has nothing to do with the fact thatI won’t have any part of a god that, as Exodus states, exacts a misplaced aggression against the children and grandchildren of someone who has sinned.
Any god who does that engages in a form of vengeful blood-lust.
Thank you!
This is what FR has come to, I guess.
I note that no moderators have yet stepped in to put a damper on what can almost be described as blood-lust.
“Pro-life”, my ass!
Beat it, loon.
Moron....
This I do not understand? This is what you think is Christlike?
No one has called anyone a derogatory name...Only the 2 of you...
Jesus said the greatest commandment is to Love your GOD with all your heart, mind and soul...
and to...Love your neighbor as yourself.... (even the ones you dis-agree with)
Thanks for the revelation in regards to your “Christian” status.
All you people who are rejoicing in the "message" of this horrible accident have no idea the hearts of any of the people involved.
Well for your information, this just ain’t “any” God!
But go ahead, keep convincing yourself otherwise.
Maybe you can tell us where Jesus told anyone to:
Beat it loon.....
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