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Victor Davis Hanson: Thoughts About Depressed Americans
pajamasmedia.com ^ | March 20, 2009 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 03/24/2009 7:45:58 AM PDT by Tolik

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To: cgk

*ping* to the best rant of the year.


21 posted on 03/24/2009 8:10:22 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: sweetiepiezer

Mark Levin has heart problems too I think.


22 posted on 03/24/2009 8:17:27 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Tolik

“...So there you have this rant...”

It is not a rant. Everything he says is measured, logical and TRUE.


23 posted on 03/24/2009 8:17:55 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Tolik

bookmarked.


24 posted on 03/24/2009 8:22:39 AM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: Tolik
... budgets will be consumed largely with health care for us baby-boomers, ...

Not necessarily. It becomes easier and easier to ... well, to remove the inconvenient among us.

Eliminating the most burdensome would eliminate a lot of debt. Any accumulations they might have left at this point in their 'lives' could simply become government property.

25 posted on 03/24/2009 8:27:01 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: Tolik

Great rant!


26 posted on 03/24/2009 8:36:12 AM PDT by rockrr (Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
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To: Tolik

We are depressed because there is no leadership in the opposition.

The left will always run all over everything when they are ‘home alone’.

What do you expect?

The Republican party is a vacillating, leaderless collection of shadow people.


27 posted on 03/24/2009 8:36:14 AM PDT by squarebarb
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To: Tolik

correcting things to the old ways—

does this mean we can’t look at megyn kelly’s legs in the morning?


28 posted on 03/24/2009 8:47:09 AM PDT by ken21 (the only thing we have to fear is fdr deja vu.)
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To: Tolik

Without a vision the people perish.

We have no leaders. Our national moral compass is broken and we are told we have no need to fix it. Therefore, chaos and it’s cousin, depression, follow.

When a leader begins to emerge, or if attempts are made to recalibrate our national moral compass we get a godless bloodletting from people demanding that we leave them alone and not impinge upon them in any way.

Frustration from a sense of total helplessness to make obvious course corrections results. Greater chaos naturally follows as a deeper national depression sets in, and the decent into depravity spins just a little faster now.


29 posted on 03/24/2009 8:47:33 AM PDT by Obadiah (Party - my house - on December 22, 2012!)
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To: Tolik

self ping for later...


30 posted on 03/24/2009 8:52:53 AM PDT by CharlieOK1 (Don't blame me, I voted for Sarah)
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To: Tolik
Victor is brilliant.
31 posted on 03/24/2009 8:58:04 AM PDT by afnamvet
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To: theFIRMbss

The Cat,
Sat.

Surely one doesn’t believe that the product of modern education(sic) can do much more?


32 posted on 03/24/2009 9:16:22 AM PDT by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

I think a lot of people would disagree about (3) and (4), which reveal old-fogeyism more than any insights into today’s culture. Middle-aged and older people have been filing similar complaints about society and the younger generation since the dawn of history.


33 posted on 03/24/2009 9:18:14 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: ken21

>does this mean we can’t look at megyn kelly’s legs in the morning?

perish the thought!


34 posted on 03/24/2009 9:18:19 AM PDT by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: RobinOfKingston
>It becomes easier and easier to ... well, to remove the inconvenient among us.

The control and rationing of health-care will do exactly that.

As far as “accumulations,” those are already virtually seized as death or inheritance taxation.

Die broke. - and your last check should bounce!

35 posted on 03/24/2009 9:21:04 AM PDT by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Tolik

I’m not a “Rand-ian” but this sounds like it ccame right out of Atlas Shrugged!. Ever since the ‘60s, and perhaps even before, the products of the grand doers of our society have been ridiculed or shamed, rather than honored. We’ve decided that science is bad, and feelings good. Our heroes are those who tear down society, or the “bad corporations” rather than the doers of great things or protectors of society. Scientists and engineers are only heroes if their opinions bring down man, rather than enhancing and enabling him. Advancing the human condition is bad, yanking it back further toward medieval or earlier lifestyles is good.


36 posted on 03/24/2009 9:25:30 AM PDT by Mr Inviso
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
I think a lot of people would disagree about (3) and (4), which reveal old-fogeyism more than any insights into today’s culture

I want to agree with you on that, but sadly, I cannot.

One, just one, novel of a Fitzgerald, Hemingway, Faulkner, Thomas Wolfe even, is worth more than what has been written collectively in the last ten years.

T. S. Eliot in a day could write better poetry than what has been composed in all the creative writing departments in the United States over the last twenty years—and we are going to give more billions under Obama to “education.”

That (coffin)nailed it.


And America expects what from the NEA agenda and the American educational system? (sic)

To teach math, science, reading, writing, and the pride and dignity of the values of Western civilization and America’s stunning achievements in the world?

Nope. Its all multicultural diversity training and the loving embrace of every perverted and disgusting habit of man.

Sorry, students haven’t gone through twelve years of public school for nothing.
They’ve learned one thing and perhaps only one thing during those twelve years.
They’ve forgotten their algebra, they’ve grown to fear and resent literature, they write like they’ve been lobotomized, but Jesus, can they follow orders!

Students don’t ask that orders make sense because they gave up expecting things to make sense long before they left elementary school.

Things are true because the teacher says they’re true.
Outside class, things are true to your tongue, your fingers, your stomach, your heart.
Inside class, things are true by reason of authority, and that’s just fine because you don’t care anyway.

Miss Wiedemeyer tells you a noun is a person, place or thing, so let it be. You don’t give a rat’s ass; she doesn’t give a rat’s ass.

The only important thing is to please her, and that lesson follows right through College. - cooperate and graduate as your professors tear down everthing good and noble in American history to replace it with their "agenda for change."

Back in kindergarten, you found out that teachers only love children who stand in nice straight lines.

And that’s where it’s been at ever since.

Nothing changes except to get worse, as those students now vote as they are ordered to vote, and believe what the MSM tells them to believe.

The Matrix is here.

A great job of ruining America by the NEA and the public education system.

37 posted on 03/24/2009 9:31:01 AM PDT by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
Yeah, I'd agree. I'd comment that the subtle difference today and through history is society's propensity on any given day or in any given era to either push limits vs uphold standards.

In some eras, there have been the propensities to seriously attack and attempt to devastate standards. 20th Century music, for just one quick example, atttempted to overthrow traditional music and harmonies. The result? Atonal music, which you either like or dislike, but you have the choice whether to listen to it or not. Fine.

But when the standards being overthrown are those of behaviors which impinge upon the rights and freedoms of others...that's where the revolution becomes threatening (to some) And sure, the civil rights movement made (true) racists and bigots very uncomfortable. It is that type of reactionary discomfort the left ascribes to Conservatives when we're called "haters" and "neanderthals". The point being that the standards being imposed are either arbitrary, or, are those that folks can look up in our founding documents.

So, it begins when I can't drive down the street without 120 db of bass vibration shaking the pavement next to me. And then it continues to higher and higher degrees of impingement until actual rights of the disinterested are rescinded and behaviors are distated. (I'm not attempting to be comprehensive here with this post because I'm sort of distracted by current events around here)

But it's the lack of consideration for others that IMO VDHG is decrying, the idea that anything new and improved is worth shoving in anyone else's face because whatever standard is being used at the moment has to be attacked. In the past; it wasn't forced down out throats; we could take it or leave it. Now it's get with the program or find yourself the subject of a tax audit or an ACORN-arranged mob circling your home.

38 posted on 03/24/2009 9:36:40 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Mr. Bernanke, have you started working on your book about the second GREATER depression?")
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To: Tolik
Everything is amazing, and nobody is happy
39 posted on 03/24/2009 10:06:36 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: theFIRMbss

In the third stall...


40 posted on 03/24/2009 10:56:27 AM PDT by Cyber Ninja (His legacy is a stain OnTheDress)
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