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To: itsahoot

I don’t consider that a problem, insofar as you don’t appear to understand the historical context underpinning his argument.

John Adams wasn’t arguing that the Constitution was tailor-made to be used as a blunt instrument to squeeze morality out of the People, independent of the already-existing morality of the People. It is precisely that type of “top-down” moral tyranny that the early colonists escaped.

What Adams meant was that a Constitution that assigned limited powers to government could only function adequately where a People had the ability to exercise self-restraint, self-control, and self-discipline. In the absence of such a People, only a tyrannical government (an absolute monarchy, a dictatorship a la Cromwell) could maintain law and order.

You can use the Constitution to impose a form of “moral socialism” on the People, but such would not be a Constitutional Republic as defined by our Founding Fathers. On the other hand, you can have a Constitutional Republic where the boundaries imposed on government are jealously maintained, but you would need to give up using the State to enforce your vision of a moral utopia.


64 posted on 03/23/2009 3:02:46 PM PDT by ForeignDude
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To: ForeignDude
insofar as you don’t appear to understand the historical context underpinning his argument.

Pick up Levin's new book. Then get back to me.

163 posted on 03/24/2009 12:05:11 PM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Obama it is then.)
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