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Only Conserva-tarians Can Save the GOP
Canada Free Press ^ | 2009-03-19

Posted on 03/23/2009 10:30:09 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

Limited government, individual liberty, personal responsibility, greater economic opportunity, and respect for this nation and its heritage.

BY JERRY A. KANE

At what point does complacency end and panic set in for the members and leaders of the Republican Party? When will they notice the empty hour glass and recognize wickedness for what it is? The hordes of satiated simpletons shouting in rhythmic cadence, “Oh we love, the O-One … Oh we love, the O-One” is not the Winkie chant of guards entering a castle in a scene from a classic fantasy film. The ill winds of the 2006 and 2008 elections that uprooted the GOP House and Senate leadership and sent Republicans spiraling downward were not flash-in-the-pan Kansas dust devils but full-blown Category-5 whirlwinds.

The party of Ronald Reagan has been victimized by disorganized thinking, held spellbound, and led astray by the siren call for moderation from its left wing, which by nature votes for progressive governance. Before Republicans begin their assault on the castle to douse the progressive Democrats’ power grab, the party’s conservatives and libertarians, i.e., Conserva-tarians, must come out from under the spell and cast out the treacherous progressive element from the positions of power in their own ranks.

Caught up in the tidal wave of the ’94 election, Republican exuberance soon gave way to a heightened sense of self-importance; instead of governing on principles and fulfilling their Contract with America, Republicans lost their way and spent the next 12 years trying to convince the electorate that their compromises were smart, courageous, and compassionate. Now, it’s up to Conserva-tarians to rise to the occasion, accept the challenge facing them, and move the party in the direction of limited government, individual liberty, personal responsibility, greater economic opportunity, and respect for this nation and its heritage.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatism; gop; libertarian; lp; mccain; mccaintruthfile; moderates; olympiasnowe; rino; rinopurge; rinos; specter; susancollins
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
There would also be no Libertarian who would tolerate such a thing.

Let me introduce you to NAMBLA.

161 posted on 03/24/2009 12:01:12 PM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Obama it is then.)
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To: JustSurrounded
I learn so much from these discussions. I'm asking in all sincerity, why B$?

Short of armed revolution, we are stuck with the Federal State.

162 posted on 03/24/2009 12:03:44 PM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Obama it is then.)
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To: ForeignDude
insofar as you don’t appear to understand the historical context underpinning his argument.

Pick up Levin's new book. Then get back to me.

163 posted on 03/24/2009 12:05:11 PM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Obama it is then.)
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To: wagglebee

JEFFERSON SHOULD HAVE BEEN IMPEACHED!!!!! /s


164 posted on 03/24/2009 12:06:20 PM PDT by gtsamson (Purists are the bane of the conservative movement and the Republican Party.)
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To: carmody

Without the GOP, you’ll be nothing.


165 posted on 03/24/2009 12:14:53 PM PDT by gtsamson (Purists are the bane of the conservative movement and the Republican Party.)
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To: ReformationFan
However, ultimately their philosophy turns out to be as unrealistic as the socialists since social liberalism by its nature requires economic liberalism/statism.

Exactly, and not unlike the position we find ourselves in today. If we had people as CEO's that had any moral decency, we would not be where we find ourselves today.

Capitalism unrestrained by morality, is no less a tyrant than a military dictatorship. It is just less bloodthirsty.

166 posted on 03/24/2009 12:17:49 PM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Obama it is then.)
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To: itsahoot

More foolish questions...foolish is as foolish says.

Children are not adults.

Cows are not adults.

Chimps are not adults.


167 posted on 03/24/2009 12:20:00 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Obama - Taking jobs from Americans.)
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To: gtsamson
Without the GOP, you’ll be nothing.

And with the GOP you'll be what?

Out of power, out of guts, out of options?

168 posted on 03/24/2009 12:23:44 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Obama - Taking jobs from Americans.)
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To: itsahoot
Capitalism unrestrained by morality, is no less a tyrant than a military dictatorship. It is just less bloodthirsty.

Ignorant comment! Now, go pick up a copy of Milton Friedman's Capitalism and Freedom; you need not get back with me.

169 posted on 03/24/2009 12:49:03 PM PDT by LowCountryJoe (Do class-warfare and disdain of laissez-faire have their places in today's GOP?)
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To: Eagle Eye

Who’s the one here that’s focusing on sexual interacations? Makes you wonder, doesn’t it. See #160.


170 posted on 03/24/2009 12:51:46 PM PDT by LowCountryJoe (Do class-warfare and disdain of laissez-faire have their places in today's GOP?)
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To: gtsamson

LOL ... you probably didn’t mean it that way ... but me personally? I’ll be nothing? Lucky for me the GOP is not my life it’s just a political party.

I’ll still be an American ... and hopefully in 4 years that will still mean something.


171 posted on 03/24/2009 12:52:20 PM PDT by carmody
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To: Eagle Eye
Where is the line?

Once conception has taken place, a human life exists. Anyone who claims that is not the case is either sorely misinformed or is simply denying the facts.

At what point do we allow adults to be responsible and accountable for their actions?

Always. That's why it is important to begin calling people to be accountable for the babies that are conceived rather than allowing them kill them and suck them into a sink.

Or could states determine their own morality based on their population’s moral code?

So if a state were to make it legal to kill a child up to 10 years old, you'd be okay with that?

172 posted on 03/24/2009 12:53:17 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: itsahoot

Gotcha. Thanks!


173 posted on 03/24/2009 12:55:11 PM PDT by JustSurrounded
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To: MEGoody
Once conception has taken place, a human life exists. Anyone who claims that is not the case is either sorely misinformed or is simply denying the facts.

I don't agree and I don't think the Bible supports your assertion.

Adam wasn't a living soul until he breathed.

Many fertilzed eggs never implant and we don't give them names nor hold funeral services.

Is it then murder to use contraceptive that prevents implanting?

But there are those who would condemn you for being soft on concepttion if you allow condoms, etc.

At what point do we allow adults to be responsible and accountable for their actions? Always. That's why it is important to begin calling people to be accountable for the babies that are conceived rather than allowing them kill them and suck them into a sink.

Sometimes allowing accountability means letting God Almighty take care of things in his own time.

So if a state were to make it legal to kill a child up to 10 years old, you'd be okay with that?

Don't be a stupid ass.

174 posted on 03/24/2009 1:22:43 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Obama - Taking jobs from Americans.)
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To: LowCountryJoe

Yep!

Kinda makes ya wonder, don’t it?


175 posted on 03/24/2009 1:28:03 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Obama - Taking jobs from Americans.)
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To: itsahoot
Any one that fixates on sexual interaction, more than on the Constitution is sick, period.

And we hope you get better real soon.

176 posted on 03/24/2009 1:28:38 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Obama - Taking jobs from Americans.)
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To: Eagle Eye
Adam wasn't a living soul until he breathed.

Bad analogy. Adam wasn't conceived. He was created from the dust of the ground.

As soon as conception occurs, oxygen is needed by the child. So. . .if your claim is that 'oxygen' somehow embues a human being with a soul, then conception it is!

Many fertilzed eggs never implant and we don't give them names nor hold funeral services.

If a full grown adult dies in solitude, they don't get funerals either. That doesn't support your argument.

Is it then murder to use contraceptive that prevents implanting?

Yes.

But there are those who would condemn you for being soft on concepttion if you allow condoms, etc.

They can if they choose, but it is certain that a sperm or an ovum by itself is not a human life. Bad argument on your part.

Sometimes allowing accountability means letting God Almighty take care of things in his own time.

If that is your position, then certainly you believe we should not have any laws, because we should just be letting God take care of things in His own time. (Which, by the way, is not a biblical position.)

Don't be a stupid ass.

So instead of answering the question which reveals the logical conclusion of your position, you call me names. Interesting.

177 posted on 03/24/2009 1:52:13 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: itsahoot

Do you actually believe that I am going to read Levin’s book, internalize what he has to say, and THEN come to some conclusion that is the anti-thesis of what I have learned through years of experience and study? Come on...

The Founding Fathers wanted us to be a nation of armed, self-disciplined, self-educated, frugal citizens who thought for themselves. This modern predilection to surrender one’s intellect to the latest authority figure is why we’re in the mess we’re in today.

I have a basement full of books and articles on American and international history, on constitutional theory and law, cross-referenced for accuracy. I do what our Founding Fathers did: I read, read, and then I read some more. As I read, I modify conclusions, but above all, I think for myself.


178 posted on 03/24/2009 1:53:49 PM PDT by ForeignDude
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To: itsahoot
Let me introduce you to NAMBLA.

Not a Libertarian group, and certainly not supported by the party.

Try again.

179 posted on 03/24/2009 3:49:50 PM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: MEGoody; All
Once conception has taken place, a human life exists.

Great! And I agree with that. But you know what, many others do not. Let me suggest two things here:
1) we, as pro-lifers, ought to really push (with private charitable financial incentives) pregnant mothers who would otherwise terminate their preganancies to carry to term and give up their baby (or babies) for adoption. And do our best to facilitate those adoptions with as little red tape as possible.
2) advocate for the passing legislation, at the state levels of government, that define birth at conception and to issue intial birth certificates upon a discovery of a preganancy. Physicians would be bound by oath and law to protect the life and the state would issue these intial certificates until the gender and name of the life is known and another certificate would be issued. If marriage can be re-defined, so can birth, right? If enough people in a state would go for it, you'd see if it would work. If popular with the people, more people would move to such a state. But if not, then what?

180 posted on 03/24/2009 5:16:33 PM PDT by LowCountryJoe (Do class-warfare and disdain of laissez-faire have their places in today's GOP?)
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