Beam me to Planet Gore !
Posted on 03/21/2009 6:05:11 PM PDT by neverdem
New studies suggest that "global warming" -- no matter if its origins are proffered as man-made or part of a natural cycle -- might soon require a new name. Can you say "global stasis" or "global cooling"?
Scientists at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee applied a math formula to climate data for the past 100 years. They found Earth's air and ocean systems now are showing signs of synchronizing with each other.
That might explain why the researchers found the warming trend of the past 30 years has stopped and that the planet's temperatures have leveled off since 2001. And that might help explain why there seem to be fewer bad storms.
A study of global tropical cyclone activity by Ryan N. Maue, a doctoral student at the Department of Meteorology at Florida State University, suggests global warming might be greatly overblown...
(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...
When it comes to liberals, objectivity breeds contempt.
The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review is owned by Mellon Bank heir Richard Mellon Scaife. It is somewhat conservative in outlook.
Global cooling ping in a major paper, IMHO.
Climate is what we expect, weather is what we get.
LAZARUS LONG
The evil, conservative Richard Mellon Scaife, it figures. Thank you!
Overblown? Hoax works for me. A means to a global Socialist end.
There is a major cycle, however, that will eventually prevail. Sometime in the next few thousand years (possibly in the next decade), we will start to enter the next ice age. The Earth will not get much warmer than it is right now, before the next ice age starts.
CO2 levels do not drive temperature changes, it is the other way around, with about a thousand year time lag. The current increases in CO2 have nothing to do with human activity, but rather are caused by the Midieval Warm Period. We have about 250 years to go on this cycle.
Our air is CO2 depleted right now. All Earthly plants have evolved to use CO2 levels 2 to 5 times higher than today's. When exposed to higher CO2 levels, plants grow faster and require less nutrients and water.
Crop yields have improved a lot over the last 150 years, largely due to improvements in technology, but a substantial portion of that improvement is due to rising CO2 levels.
Many scientists are well aware of these facts, but all the press goes to lying panic mongers who make a very good living by dispensing misinformation.
Exactly. There are hundreds of variables which have significant contributions to climate, and we are only guessing at how much each one contributes. Besides the fact that the climate data is not really all that accurate, it is impossible to isolate each variable. The idea they could conclusively say CO2 is the dominate variable effecting climate change is completely absurd and only basis is the bias of the scientific community which gets billions in research dollars to say so. No honest scientist based on the data could conclude CO2 is even a major factor, let alone a dominate factor.
If all your posts were as succinct and accurate as this one, your FReeper name would be plus apropos.
;^)
They’ve been predicting rain where I live for like five days in a row now. It hasn’t shown up yet. They can’t predict the weather 24 hours in advance, with what is undoubtedly a much simpler computer model than the global warming model. Who in their right mind really believes that the global warming computer simulations have any basis in reality?
I think it may also because CO2 output is something that can readily be measured (based on the inputs of fuel purchased), leading to its usefulness as a commodity which Algore's Carbon Credit Trading scheme can make money on.
Thanks, but unfortunately, many of my posts are typo-ridden sarcastic ramblings. Every once in a while I nail one.
Actually, the Global Warming computer models are relatively simple. Capitalism = We're Doomed!
I was speaking of the motives of the scientific community. Certainly politicians have their own motives such as socialistic control, killing capitalistic prosperity, and also personal gain.
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Has the climate recently shifted? (PDF)
Here are the paper's conclusions:
"Finally, it is vital to note that there is no comfort to be gained by having a climate with a significant degree of internal variability, even if it results in a near-term cessation of global warming. It is straightforward to argue that a climate with significant internal variability is a climate that is very sensitive to applied anthropogenic radiative anomalies (c.f. Roe [2009]). If the role of internal variability in the climate system is as large as this analysis would seem to suggest, warming over the 21st century may well be larger than that predicted by the current generation of models, given the propensity of those models to underestimate climate internal variability [Kravtsov and Spannagle 2008].
"Finally, it is vital to note that there is no comfort to be gained by having a climate with a significant degree of internal variability, even if it results in a near-term cessation of global warming. It is straightforward to argue that a climate with significant internal variability is a climate that is very sensitive to applied anthropogenic radiative anomalies (c.f. Roe [2009]).
When they can also account for phenomena external to our atmosphere, I might get concerned about a minor increase in a trace gas.
If the role of internal variability in the climate system is as large as this analysis would seem to suggest, warming over the 21st century may well be larger than that predicted by the current generation of models, given the propensity of those models to underestimate climate internal variability [Kravtsov and Spannagle 2008].
I'll believe in a model when they have one that can reproduce the historical data.
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