[Arguendo]

Oh yeah, Stalin and Mugabe were certainly elected in free and fair elections. /s

Are you trying to discredit yourself?

[ArrogantBustard]

It's a matter of degree, not a matter of kind. You think our elections in these all holy and utterly perfect United States are really free and fair?

Grow up. I've seen 'way too much outright fraud to buy into that silly notion even for a moment.

Are you trying to discredit yourself? You're darned close to doing it.

And anybody who sees anything at all good in the French Revolution has already discredited himself.