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To: RangerM

Every election the Republicans won was without winning the minorities vote. In fact they won these elections despite the vast majority of the minorities voting against them.


3 posted on 03/16/2009 4:20:36 AM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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That isn’t the case jveritas, Republicans used to receive the majority of the Black Vote until Nixon’s Southern Strategy.

GWB got 45% of the Hispanic Vote in 04 as well.

But there is little chance minorities would peel away from Obama for a candidate like McCain, if there was ever an “old white guy” McCain was it.

School vouchers, opportunity, and being pro small business and pointing out that Abortion amounts to genocide in minority communities is the path to making Conservatism at least on par with Liberalism.

And the best part is, those issues do not require the abandonment of solid Principles.


11 posted on 03/16/2009 4:30:33 AM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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very true. Even at the height of the GOP when Reagan won in 84 he only got 9% of the black vote. If the dems had an actual black guy to vote for like they did last year, he’d have done no better than McCain did. Reagan got 34% of the Hispanic vote in 84, about the same as McCain got.

The difference is he got 66% of the white vote vs 55% of the white vote and the white vote itself shrank from 86% of the total to 74%.

The GOP will never get more than around 10% of the black vote barring some massive change in politics or them running a black candidate. Even then a conservative black guy won’t get more than around 20-25% at most. See Steele in MD, Swann in PA, Blackwell in OH, etc... A moderate black guy like Powell would do better but I think even he would have gottena round a third of the black vote at most.

Hispanics are somewhat similar. W was an exception being from TX, having Jeb in FL with his Hispanic wife, etc... and he did make inroads but the immigration thing hurt the party badly. I don’t see them topping 35% or so any time soon.

We just have to a better job of maxing out the white vote. McCain still got 55% in the worst anti-GOP yr since 76 and the worst economy/recession in a generation. But it will be tough. Even in 2004 with a good economy, having terrorism/natl security and moral values as major issues, and outspending the dems, W still topped out at 58% and that just won’t cut it going forward. McCain could have replicated W’s totals last year and he’d still have lost by 2 or 3 pts.


71 posted on 03/16/2009 6:23:55 AM PDT by jeltz25
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That strategy can’t work forever...minorities are outbreeding whites.

I say this as a new dad (who is white) - the percentage of babies in the maternity unit in our hospital who are white is a much smaller percentage than the white adult population...it’s anecdotal but also supported by statistics.


78 posted on 03/16/2009 6:33:02 AM PDT by RockinRight (How do you like your Savior now, libs? Looks like Jimmy Carter is no longer the worst President...)
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That will/has stopped happening now that “minorities” are not really in the minority any more.


91 posted on 03/16/2009 6:47:04 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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As someone said in the duplicate thread of this article, it is not conservatives who have to evolve to attract minorities, it is minorities who must evolve before they are capable of embracing Conservative concepts.

And their growth and development is stunted by revisionist depts of education and treasonous MSM outlets.


187 posted on 03/16/2009 10:01:10 AM PDT by Canedawg (Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press.)
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To: jveritas
Every election the Republicans won was without winning the minorities vote. In fact they won these elections despite the vast majority of the minorities voting against them.

When republicans can pull in some 40 to 45% of Hispanics, and 85% of blacks, we stand a very good chance of winning most elections.

When Hispanics vote 70% for democrats and blacks vote 90-95% for democrats, we can't win.

We can't win because, when whites are split pretty much down the middle when voting for democrats and republicans, the huge "minority" vote which almost exclusively votes democrat will, of course, swing the election to democrats. That 95% black vote in the last election pretty much decided the election. Thus, in a way, we have a "democracy" by minority rule.
210 posted on 03/16/2009 12:53:54 PM PDT by adorno (<br><br>)
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issue now jv is that we won those elections at 53-55% of the peckerwood vote

with immigration both legal and otherwise trending dem we now need 58% or better

at least that’s the analysis I’ve seen from last November’s results where the usual 55% was not enuff

i think it’s easier to get big gulp fatassed peckerwoods off their butts and vote GOP than it is to get enuff minorites to matter

i mean what “minorities” vote RIGHT anyhow?

one hand:

Cubers

Vietnamese

Japs

Christian Arabs used to...at least in Dixie they did (i’m 1/32 one myself)

Rich South Americans fleeing despots and collectivists

that bout covers which “minorities” vote majority to the GOP


229 posted on 03/16/2009 6:34:39 PM PDT by wardaddy (The world has gone to shite since I was a lad in the idyllic 60s)
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