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To: Kansas58; little jeremiah
"by every single definition of every reputable Constitutional Scholar who has ever studied the issue"

Citation required ... This statement is egregious. I showed you the words of Morrison Remick Waite. Would you argue he is not reputable or scholarly? Is John Bingham, who said "every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen" reputable and scholarly? I completely disagree with your personal definition of natural born, but I'm willing to hear your side up until you toss glittering, and erroneous, generalities into the mix.
81 posted on 03/13/2009 3:18:42 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: so_real

Your quote is off the mark.
You can not exclude anyone from the class of “Natural Born Citizen” with INCLUSIVE language.
Just because some ARE admitted to that group does NOT indicate that others are EXCLUDED from that group.


89 posted on 03/13/2009 3:41:21 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: so_real
John Bingham, primary author of the 14th Amendment, was concerned, PRIMARILY, with crafting an Amendment that would overturn the Dred Scott decision.

The 14th Amendment is an INCLUSIVE Amendment. It was not the role or the desire to EXCLUDE anyone, from Citizenship, with that Amendment.

Congress clearly has the right, under the Constitution and under all Amendments, to establish the rules for Citizenship, within Constitutional guidelines.

The application for a Passport makes clear that there are two basic ways to gain citizenship: Birth or Naturalization.

If you ARE a Citizen, and you were NOT Naturalized, chances are high that you are a Natural Born Citizen. There are only a few exceptions to this rule.

95 posted on 03/13/2009 4:03:13 PM PDT by Kansas58
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