[semantic]

If we help support the welfare state by providing it with a line of credit ie buying Treasuries (we can't do anything about taxes without breaking the law), the Kenyan will just use our money to finance his take over of health care and energy (cap&trade).

The paradox is that we ourselves continue to fund the very agents of our oppression. By saving more & spending less, we act to starve the beast at the source.

[RockinRight]

Of course we also screw/starve ourselves in the process...saving is fine until too many people lose their jobs due to less consumption and no longer have anything to save.

[HangThemHigh]

I can’t disagree with not supporting the welfare state or anything else 0 may throw at us, but I think we need to hold off on the drastic measures until the economy gets headed in the right direction.