Posted on 03/06/2009 9:15:49 AM PST by EternalVigilance
Point taken
That’s exactly what they said to the newly-minted Republicans in the 1850s.
Maya Keyes & 'friend'
Thanks for illustrating the character of “your side.”
Looks like minnery has some Explaining to do about his attacks on Christen.
This example again?
On one hand, you have Stephen Douglas. He helped author the Compromise of 1850 that resulted in the determination of various states as ‘slave’ and others as ‘free’ following their ‘promotion’ from territory to state following the gains of the Mexican War. He also kept the notion of ‘popular sovereignty’ open by the Kansas-Nebraska Act of 1854, allowing states to choose whether to be free or slave. The protest movement against this became the Republican Party. He supported the Dred Scott Decision that basically declared black people as property. He also opposed and helped defeat the notion of the federal government declaring a state to be a slave state against the will of its citizens (as was the case when Buchanan tried to pass a slave code, thus turning Kansas into a slave state). Shortly before his death, he threw his support to the Union. At the time, the issue of slavery was an issue solely belonging to the states, and debates about the inherent humanity of blacks went back-and-forth until things boiled over - alongside other factors - into secession...and the Civil War.
Now for Sarah Palin. We have a mother who chose to give birth to her Downs Syndrome baby in a culture of death that roundly criticized her for such a decision. She chose to help her daughter who - teenagers being teenagers - became pregnant, pledging familial support to Bristol and her boyfriend/soon-to-be-husband in raising their baby. Again, the culture of death criticized. She has shown in word and action to be Pro-Life. She is quite popular, but was saddled with the liberal McCain...and even despite that, singlehandedly kept the election from being a total blowout. She has advocated support of overturning Roe v. Wade and returning it to the states. As for the topic at hand...we have two judges. Initial reports seem to show that Eric Smith is more liberal than Morgan Christen. Christen was a former member of an organization that would go on - well AFTER she left - to become a chapter of Planned Parenthood. She was not with that organization when they stared providing abortions. But we don’t know much about either candidates, so we have the word of the MSM versus Sarah Palin’s judgment, pending more evidence.
One MAJOR reason why your comparisons to the 1850s don’t fly: SLAVERY WAS NOT NATIONAL POLICY.
ABORTION IS.
The culture of the 1850s was far more in line with the understanding that we have God-given rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Efforts by Christians throughout Western Civilization had put a stop to the oceanic slave trade. I would wager that slavery as an economic system would’ve probably been faded out as industrialization made slave labor less profitable. And the rising condemnation of slavery would have eventually forced the South to get with the times. But more to the point...we had people willing to fight and die for what was right.
Fast forward to today. The majority do not view abortion as ending the life of a person. The dogma of liberalized education is that “Any attempts at restricting abortion are tantamount to enslaving a woman and her right to choose!” Very rosy rhetoric that’s pleasing to the ear. Unlike slavery, which at LEAST had value as an economic system (which was gradually fading), abortion only deprives of value...and we have enough people misguided enough to believe otherwise.
The fact that abortion is already national policy is unconstitutional...simply because it deprives the unborn of their right to life guaranteed as persons. But people do not recognize them as persons.
Returning the issue to the states automatically opens the issue up for debate.
And then people can be educated as to what America has been doing to her posterity for decades.
jla, cut it out.
You’re using the same tactic as the liberals do when attacking Dick Cheney via his lesbian daughter, trying to paint him as ‘non-family values’.
Same with the liberals who attacked Sarah Palin’s family values, simply because her daughter Bristol Palin became impregnated before marriage (like no other teenager ever has).
Despite the instruction and guidance of parents...sometimes children will just go their own way. You can condemn their immoral behavior...but you still love them as your children.
So give it a rest.
Jla, please do not follow EV off the deep end. The times are too dire to use this sort of nonsense against fellow conservatives. EV no longer believes this, but I hope you won’t follow him.
I find it interesting that you’re equating a consistent defense of America’s most fundamental principles with the trash that was posted by jla.
Or is your opposition to Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama just talk?
I only read the post I responded to, the others had already been deleted. In politics, I generally go by my judgment as to the likely results of the actions. My judgment as to the morality I reserve for my religious posts. Your posts here, in my opinion are superior morally to jla, but about equal in damage to the causes we have defended.
pt. taken, thank you
Why didn’t she just refuse to appoint anyone and let the AK House vote to impeach her for malfeasance. That could have possibly gotten the procedure changed. She could have called Ted Stevens as a character witness!
It looks like she may have known better than the main stream media spouting this.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2200968/posts
It says that this person is a "FORMER" member of Planned Parenthood.
Is there any information provided why she is no longer a board member, and if she has changed her position on abortion?
Thank you in advance for your response.
Basically, she was a board member of a group that LATER became Planned Parenthood of Alaska. She was a board member when they weren’t PP and almost a decade before this group promoted abortions. See also the link above yours.. it seems that the person who leveled this charge was not being truthful...
..forgot to add, she didn’t even include this group in her application paperwork, so Palin had no way of knowing or even guessing about this..
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