However, I’d bet that the powers that be either have set up the proxy servers or have all the data on them copied to their acres of computers in real time 24/7.
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Not outside the US they don’t. Use one outside the US.
You’d be wrong.
When I said all electronic communications . . . there were very few on the planet
on the planet . . .
even in 1970
that weren’t monitored 24/7.
Much easier now.
These folks have been into tyranny and
!!!!!!CONTROL!!!!!!
for a very long time.
They’ve wisely done most of it covertly for a long time.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread441968/pg1
For example . . . just one poster’s ideas . . . right? . . .
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Conspiracy: Are we witnessing a planned collapse of the free press of America?
Hi, guys-
Ok, I was posting in another thread when I thought of this. We’ve all been hearing about how all the newspapers around America are suddenly collapsing due to the “financial crisis” right now.
Here’s my conspiracy theory: I think we are witnessing a planned collapse of the “free press” (i.e. the US newspapers). I think it’s a planned conspiracy. Or is it just a coincidence that just all the newspapers in America seem to be failing just when we need the newspapers the most right now, in the face of widespread corruption of our government?
Of course, I am just as guilty as the next person in not supporting my local newspaper, but there was a reason I stopped buying newspapers: because newspapers in recent years, have all been bought up by corporations in recent decades. And the mainstream news recently became more profit-driven (i.e. mere gossip), and real issues went by the wayside, because of either political bias of the newspaper or due to the the dumbing down of America.
So, because the news turned to more “gossip” than news, those of us who seriuosly used to enjoy reading the newspapers in the past, all stopped buying it. (I know I did!)
And that’s what they were counting on. Because when we stopped buying newspapers, we stopped supporting more than the newspaper itself. We stopped supporting the whole concept behind the newspapers, which is that the “press” in America had certain freedoms associated with it.
If you are a member of the press, you have protection of the press behind you. So, when you start asking questions that annoy those in power, you can’t get thrown into jail, because you had your “press credentials.”
Now, all the newspapers are closing down. Why? Because the press stopped asking important questions, and started reporting drivel. And so demand is down, and with less demand and less profit, that gives the corporations the perfect excuse to close down non-profitable parts of their businesses!
But this is terrible. There are certain things in life that should remain open, regardless of profit. One is hospitals, and the other is the free press. Why? Becasue we need them
And further more: there was a super-moderator who started the conspiracy last week: A conspiracy against ATS. It was posted by nefermore, and here it is:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread441382/pg1
Great thread he/she started, because it points out that there definitely seems to be a conspiracy against ATS. In my mind, to me, this is supporting evidence for my theory, too.
Think about it: first, “they” collapse the economy. Then, they collapse the “free press” so nobody can figure out what is happening. So, all the smart people who think (ATS members) start going to underground news sites (such as this one), but THEN, these anonymous people start making outrageous posts that force ATS change their policies regarding contentious subjects.
Thus, “they” win. They not only were able to collapse the free press, but now they are working (and succeeding) on collapsing the “underground press” websites, such as ATS.
both just as much. We need a hospital to go in case we get hit by a mac truck, and we need a newspaper to go in case our government becomes corrupt.
So, what do you guys think?
Is it true that the newspapers are collapsing due to “the economy” as we are being led to believe, or is it more? Or are we witnesssing it a planned collapse of the free press of America? And if there is a conspiracy to collapse the free press of America, is it it part of the whole planned “collapse of the economy/currency/nation” conspiracy?
Think about it: many people say that the economy crisis was a planned collapse. Wouldn’t it make sense, if this were true, that they would also want to collapse our free press at the same time?
I’m telling you, you guys have to be strong. Now that you know what these posters are trying to do (collapse the underground news, now, as well as the “above ground” press) you have to stand tough.
People like that are abusers: they push you and push you until you are forced to do something that you don’t want to do, but you feel you have no other choice. Now that they have gotten away with getting you to curtail free speech on certain issues, I’m sure they’ll start wearing you guys down on other issues! The more policies you change restricting free speech (such as drug legalization, etc...) the more you restrict free discussion, until soon, this site will resemble a tabloid newspaper.
I was on another site talking about the violence on the border betewen the southwestern US states and the Mexican drug cartels. Well, you can’t discuss that subject without bringing up the drug trade, which then naturally leads to “verboten” subjects that are now not allowed as subject of discussion on ATS!
So now, free speech has now been curtailed here on ATS. We’re all afraid to mention certain subjects, because htey are now “not allowed” and....viola....the collapse of the underground press is going to follow suit, close behind the collapse of the free press.
So, becasue of this, I am urging ATS to re-think their policies of now allowing certain subjects discussed. The more you react....and make new rules and policies...the more you will play into these people’s hands, whoever they are.
Because already, I’m thinking: well, ATS is no longer a “free speech” zone. Great! Now what? I’m thinking of starting my own “underground news site’ and i”m sure others here on ATS are also. So, what does that do? It only dilutes the reader-ship, and soon, people begin leaving places like ATS, but no place other than ATS will ever be as strong as ATS, because it was one of the first “underground sites” for underground news.
ATS was started because of the drivel that was being reported on the mainstream media. Now, “they” are succeeding in getting certain subjects removed from ATS content: 9/11 content, drug legalization, etc....
This is not good. I think the moderator was right when he said that there is a conspiracy against ATS...but I think it’s part of the bigger conspiracy of collapsing all the free press in America, and around the world.