[whattajoke]

you’re the victim of a cult.

LOL. Okay. We differ on the definition of cult.

If creationism is taught or even mentioned, we’ll somehow morph into a theocracy, experience an inquistion and scientists will be burned at the stake.

I don't believe in a god and I don't believe that creationism being mentioned in public school will result in your strawman fantasy. I simply think that creationism is not remotely based on science and therefore should not be taught as such. You can teach it all day long in some other course, like Mythology or Comparative Religion if you'd like.

Uhhh don’t look now confucius but the creatues were a strawman contsruct of one of your fellow liberals!

Wait - didn't you just write that you never engage in personal attacks? Sarcastically calling me Confucius and then a liberal? Again, we differ on the definition of "personal" and "attack."

As far as scientific proof of God, do you have any scientific proof that you love your beautiful son?

Hm. Good one. Except I didn't ask for proof at all. I asked for evidence. I asked for testing parameters and predictions. There is plenty of evidence that I love my son, for which you can "test" (though please don't, that's creepy) and predict how I will treat him as he gets older. Big difference.

For that matter, I’d like to see the scientific evidence and proof behind string and membrane theory, not to mention multiverse theory and then there’s the science of studying the effectiveness of prayer, miracles, etc.

I don't know anything about string and membrane and multiverse theory. (You apparently forgot to put "theory" in quotation marks!) As for the science of studying the effectiveness of prayer, that kinda bombed didn't it? Conclusion, as I recall: Prayers offered by strangers had no effect on the recovery of people who were undergoing heart surgery. Please point me to the "science of studying miracles." I'm intrigued.

I’d point out that “proof or evidence of God” isn’t something remotely to be gained by man’s designs or demands through his narrow understanding or tools, but if you genuinely ask God to reveal himself and come into your heart, you’ll get all the proof you’ll ever need, unquestionably.

Bold statement - and one central to your faith which I respect. I had faith for years, but it revealed itself to be empty at some point. I haven't missed it, I haven't much thought about it, and I won't be going back to it. I retain my morals and my values, and that's good enough for me. (And SHOULD be good enough for you, as I WOULD walk into a burning building for you.)

[tpanther]

If creationism is taught or even mentioned, we’ll somehow morph into a theocracy, experience an inquistion and scientists will be burned at the stake.

I don't believe in a god and I don't believe that creationism being mentioned in public school will result in your strawman fantasy.

It's not my strawman fantasy -joke, it's coyoteman's.

I simply think that creationism is not remotely based on science and therefore should not be taught as such. You can teach it all day long in some other course, like Mythology or Comparative Religion if you'd like.

Uhhh, no I'd like it taught in science class thank you very much.And the exact same can be said for the sheer conjecture and faith of evolution.

Who was it you think appointed you or your ilk to speak for everyone anyway?Was it Michael Newdow that put that idea into your head?

Wait - didn't you just write that you never engage in personal attacks?

Ummmm, nope, I sure didn't, you must have me confused with someone else.I'm sure it seems that way a good bit of the time though, because I'm sure alot of posters are used to abusing people without a fight back or at the very least are used to people giving them a free pass while they try to undermine a conservative website with their PC liberal tripe.

Sarcastically calling me Confucius and then a liberal? Again, we differ on the definition of "personal" and "attack."

Ummmm, nice try but no dice, but it was one of your ilk with the strawman of weird animals, rather you want to acknowledge your embarassment or not.

Hm. Good one. Except I didn't ask for proof at all. I asked for evidence.

*SIGH*...OK, evidence.

There is plenty of evidence that I love my son, for which you can "test" (though please don't, that's creepy) and predict how I will treat him as he gets older. Big difference.

Not necessarily and certainly not that all scientists would agree upon.

I don't know anything about string and membrane and multiverse theory.

Naturally. How very convenient. Well learn up and then demand it be silenced, taught in philosophy courses or comparative religious courses or something and perhaps someone will be impressed with you!

As for the science of studying the effectiveness of prayer, that kinda bombed didn't it?

It did? I was under the impression it was on-going.

Bold statement - and one central to your faith which I respect. I had faith for years, but it revealed itself to be empty at some point. I haven't missed it, I haven't much thought about it, and I won't be going back to it. I retain my morals and my values, and that's good enough for me. (And SHOULD be good enough for you, as I WOULD walk into a burning building for you.)

Fine, but like Michael Newdow, now all you need to do is understand no one's appointed you or anyone else to speak for all of us, or demand what's science or what's not science or what we can or can't teach our kids. Naturally you'll say people are free to teach what they like, just run off to private or homeschool while paying for failed NEA public schools too.

But NO thanks.

And the same goes for court houses, politics, public schools in general and pretty much every other public realm too.