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Nick Schuyler identified as RESCUED boater
Bay News 9 ^ | 3/2/09 | baynews9

Posted on 03/02/2009 12:06:36 PM PST by Reagan69

Nick Schuyler was taken via helicopter to Tampa General Hospital. Officials are still searching for former Buccaneers Corey Smith and Marquis Cooper, along with ex-USF football player William Bleakley.

(Excerpt) Read more at baynews9.com ...


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To: subterfuge

It was totally irresponsible to put that kind of weight in a 21 ft boat, let alone in that weather. My husband was saying that the four of them could weigh close to a thousand pounds.


61 posted on 03/02/2009 1:30:22 PM PST by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: Reagan69
Our pool was 67 degrees yesterday, and 15 minutes was enough!

Water Temperature (A) Expected Time Before Exhaustion or Unconsciousness (B) Expected Time of Survival

32.5° (A) < 15 minutes (B)45 minutes

32.5° – 40° (A) 15 – 30 minutes (B)30 – 90 minutes

40° – 50° (A) 30 – 60 minutes (B)1 – 3 hours

50° – 60° (A) 1 – 2 hours (B)1 – 6 hours

60° – 70° (A) 2 – 7 hours (B)2 – 40 hours

70° – 80° (A) 3 – 12 hours 3 hours – (B)indefinite

> 80° (A) indefinite (B)indefinite

62 posted on 03/02/2009 1:36:34 PM PST by Sax
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To: varina davis

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63 posted on 03/02/2009 1:38:47 PM PST by RDTF ("I'm pretty sure this is a 2 man job once the shooting starts")
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To: Sax

70° – 80° (A) 3 – 12 hours (B)3 hours – indefinite


64 posted on 03/02/2009 1:39:45 PM PST by Sax
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To: Eva

The boat is rated for more than 1000 pounds. See the link further up in this thread.

But it’s designed for travel in lesser seas.


65 posted on 03/02/2009 1:41:58 PM PST by hattend (Sarah Palin has run a fishing business, a city, and a state. All Obama has done is run his mouth.)
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To: halo66

Thank goodness. Thanks.


66 posted on 03/02/2009 1:42:57 PM PST by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: Paladin2

21 feet out in the open ocean? May not have been the wisest decision ever made, hopefully it won’t be fatal decision for any of them.


67 posted on 03/02/2009 1:44:36 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Mad-Margaret

Gutless, not...smart yes! Things out there can turn on a dime!


68 posted on 03/02/2009 1:46:14 PM PST by hope (in mourning)
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To: Sax

The station just apologized for reporting Marquis Cooper found alive, they said they reported it from a “tip”.

As most have speculated, your only chance would have been to hang on to the boat and stay out of the water as much as possible.

The chances of finding the other 3 guys alive, taking into account the temperature of the water, and how long they have been in the water is slim, most likely hopeless.

Ongoing live coverage here.

http://www.freep.com/article/20090302/SPORTS01/90302030


69 posted on 03/02/2009 1:47:31 PM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: Reagan69; All

Coast Guard Photo Release

(Click pics for very large versions)






70 posted on 03/02/2009 1:52:30 PM PST by rpierce (We have taglines now? :)
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To: Osage Orange
“You know....there are 21’ boats and there are 21’ boats.21’ bass boats are made for “BASS FISHING”....!!21’ ocean going boats..are made for “OCEAN FISHING”...!!”

You are right. With the right hull design even a twenty foot boat probably would have been ok. Unfortunately their boat was more of a bass fishing boat than an offshore fishing boat. It wasn't designed for heavy seas.

71 posted on 03/02/2009 1:52:51 PM PST by monday
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To: Mad-Margaret

You are right! We did a lot of open ocean sailing (28 foot reverse shear) when I was young. My mother, when I moved close to Lake Erie, told my she would never go out on Lake Erie in a storm, as we used to do in the ocean.

One thing about a good sailboat, you can always rig up a sea anchor in a storm. You drop all your sails, and drag the sea anchor, and unless hit by a rogue wave, can usually make it through.

But, Lake Erie? Nope, the ocean is safer.


72 posted on 03/02/2009 1:56:55 PM PST by jacquej
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To: Mad-Margaret

“Lake Erie is the one that scares me the most. It’s so shallow and it can whip up to a fury in a very short time. More than once I have chickened out and just stayed another day at Put In Bay. Call me gutless, but gutless and ALIVE’

Years ago, I got caught by a summer squall about 12 miles out of Fairport Harbor with a dead engine, no radio, no compass on a 16 foot boat owned by a friend. How we survived I will never know. In 30 minutes we went from 2-3 footers to 8-12 footers with lightning and thunder all around us. Did I mention he is my now ex-friend. We had a quite heated discussion about the essentials of boating. I had made the stupid mistake of assuming no one would go out 10 miles into Lake Erie without the usual safety equipment.


73 posted on 03/02/2009 2:00:45 PM PST by Cyman
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To: Sax
Given this scale below, I have to remark at how cold I usually feel when even in a wet suit in 80+ F weather after 6-7 hours. Even in water this warm, your core temperature eventually goes.

This overnighting in 60 something degree water would be a nightmare.

Water Temperature (A) Expected Time Before Exhaustion or Unconsciousness (B) Expected Time of Survival

32.5° (A) < 15 minutes (B)45 minutes

32.5° – 40° (A) 15 – 30 minutes (B)30 – 90 minutes

40° – 50° (A) 30 – 60 minutes (B)1 – 3 hours

50° – 60° (A) 1 – 2 hours (B)1 – 6 hours

60° – 70° (A) 2 – 7 hours (B)2 – 40 hours

70° – 80° (A) 3 – 12 hours 3 hours – (B)indefinite

> 80° (A) indefinite (B)indefinite

74 posted on 03/02/2009 2:09:15 PM PST by dersepp (I Am A Militia Of One)
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To: Paladin2

It’s filled with foam and floats like a cork. It’s reportedly nearly unsinkable.


75 posted on 03/02/2009 2:19:31 PM PST by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: PEACE ENFORCER
"...21 ft seems a little small unless it is filled with foam and floats like a cork..."

All boats under that size since 1971 are required to enable floating when swamped. Many larger boats, such as Cobalt, will sink when swamped.

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5102

"...That would be a 'Boston Whaler'.... can't sink em..."

CAN flip 'em, though. :(

76 posted on 03/02/2009 2:28:00 PM PST by Does so (White House uncomfortable? Sleeplessness? The 0bama will quit before 6 months are up.)
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To: Reagan69

Wow. I don’t even go out in my bass boat, fishing 30 feet from shore without checking the weather report.


77 posted on 03/02/2009 2:30:16 PM PST by ko_kyi
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To: Reagan69
I saw the rescue photo of the turtled boat. Though the rescuee was sitting on the stern, the total amount of hull exposed didn't look too large. It's a lot better than most boats, but not quite cork-like (near 100% filled). It'd definitely be better if it were a monostable design (like a fixed keel sailboat) rather than bi-stable.

Still it did provide more than adequate flotation for at least one passenger and didn't break up; that's a good and valuable thing.

78 posted on 03/02/2009 2:39:32 PM PST by Paladin2 (No, pundits strongly believe that the proper solution is more dilution.)
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To: Frantzie
Even an EPIRB on an unsinkable Everglades 21cc, and those guys would all be home now.
79 posted on 03/02/2009 2:55:49 PM PST by OBXWanderer
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To: OBXWanderer

The news said the Coast Guard found the boat 35 miles out. Single engine 21 footer open fisherman with 4 big guys with money. The beacon or survival raft would cost $1300 each.

Anyone buying a boat should take a power boat course and they should tell people if you go in the ocean you better have one or two or both things if you value your life.

This small single engine open-fisherman should stay within a mile or two of the shore. Also going out before a major front is crazy. The winds yesterday afternoon were whipping at 35 mph or more.


80 posted on 03/02/2009 3:43:25 PM PST by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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