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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Interesting, but wrong. The “grandfather clause” was needed because the Framers wanted to make sure that all U.S. citizens at the founding, including Alexander Hamilton (born in the Caribbean island of Nevis), could become president. And even had the “grandfather clause” really been adopted to allow the likes of George Washington and John Adams to become president, it would have been because someone could have been hypertechnical and claimed that they were not U.S. citizens at birth because *no one* was born a U.S. citizen in 1732 and such because the United States of America did not yet exist formally.

A natural-born citizen is a U.S. citizen at birth. If Obama was born in the U.S., he is a natural-born citizen. However, if he was born in Kenya (as his step-grandmother claimed), then he wasn’t a U.S. citizen at birth under the laws in effect in 1961 (because his father was a non-citizen abnd his 18-year-old U.S.-citizen mother obviously had not resided in the U.S. for 5 years after the age of 14). So where Obama was born is yhe key to determining whether or not he is a natural-born citizen.


9 posted on 03/01/2009 4:52:15 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Fred Thompson appears human-sized because he is actually standing a million miles away.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Sorry you cannot comprehned the simple written word. Reread the essay. This is not about geography it is about citizen parents. Besides, you make an assertion (why the grandfather clause was included) you do not substantiate with anything except your opinion that an anchor baby can be elected president, legitimately. No, they cannot, because the third level of citizenship is specifically about the office of president and a natural born citizen is all that is legitimate, not anchor babies, not naturalized, not non-citizens, only natural born citizens, those with TWO AMERICAN CITIOZEN PARENTS at the time of the birth of that individual.


24 posted on 03/01/2009 5:04:05 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
A natural-born citizen is a U.S. citizen at birth. If Obama was born in the U.S., he is a natural-born citizen.

Not at all, see post 68!!!

75 posted on 03/01/2009 7:33:36 PM PST by danamco
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Amazing. The words are quite clear for anyone to read and comprehend. Please do not spin this.


92 posted on 03/01/2009 10:37:07 PM PST by Lumper20
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