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To: MHGinTN

Whatever you say, Mr. Blackstone.

BTW, next time you try to argue original intent of a clause in the original Constitution, try quoting people who were actually alive at the time. While Johnb Bingham is one of the foremost authorities regarding the original intent of the Privileges or Immunities Clause of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment (the one that the Supreme Court reduced to nothing in the Slaughterhouse Cases), given that he was pretty much the Father of the 14th Amendment, he had no special knowledge regarding the Natural-Born Citizen Clause, unless he jumped into Doc Brown’s DeLorean and filled in for Gouverneur Morris or somebody at the Constitutional Convention. Before coming up with a definition of “natural-born citizen” that contradicts what has been the near-unanimous opinion of scholars over the past 200 years, you’ll have to do better than that.


54 posted on 03/01/2009 5:43:04 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Fred Thompson appears human-sized because he is actually standing a million miles away.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
Another nice alinskyesque try. Have you read what Jefferson included in the VA constitution? I think, if I'm not mistaken, that he was alive when the U.S. Constitution was written ... had something to do with the Declaration thingy, too.

[[ Thomas Jefferson wrote Virginia’s birthright law of 1777 requiring the father to be a citizen.
“We can say with confidence that a natural-born citizen of the United States means those persons born whose father the United States already has an established jurisdiction over, i.e., born to father’s who are themselves citizens of the United States. “
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The “natural born” Clause’s origins have been traced to a July 25, 1787 letter from John Jay to the presiding officer of the Constitutional Convention, George Washington. Jay wrote, “Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.” ************************************************** “The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society can not exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as a matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. THE COUNTRY OF THE FATHERS IS THEREFORE THAT OF THE CHILDREN.” Vattel, Citizens and Nations,” par. 212

56 posted on 03/01/2009 5:50:21 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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