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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The first thing it says is that being born in the US is not enough to be natural born, otherwise the grandfather clause would not be necessary. The writers and delegates, having been born in the US, wanted to be eligible for the presidency, but most were the children of British subjects. Knowing that that eliminated them from being natural born and, thus, from eligibility, they included the grandfather clause which expired when the last person alive at the time of the ratification of the Constitution died.”


I always thought that was written because since these men were creating the United States, none of them could have been born in it.


11 posted on 03/01/2009 4:55:36 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12
Read the words of Rep. Bingham stating the necessity of two parents who are American citizens at the birth of the child and you get a better picture of why the grandfather clause was aimed at citizenship of the parents, not this specious geography bilge. ...

[[ Rep. John Bingham of Ohio, considered the father of the Fourteenth Amendment, confirms the understanding and construction the framers used in regards to birthright and jurisdiction while speaking on civil rights of citizens in the House on March 9, 1866:
" ... I find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents [plural, meaning two] not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen..." (http://americamustknow.com/default.aspx) ]]

28 posted on 03/01/2009 5:08:31 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: ansel12

> “I always thought that was written because since these men were creating the United States, none of them could have been born in it.”

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What they were creating, via the constitution, was a new Government for those previously united states.
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120 posted on 10/10/2010 8:05:09 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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