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Obama may use 50-vote tactic on energy, healthcare
The Hill ^ | 3-1-09 | Jim Snyder

Posted on 03/01/2009 4:30:38 PM PST by cdchik123

President Obama’s budget director said the White House would consider using a Senate procedural tactic so that only 50 votes would be rquired to pass major healthcare and energy reforms.

Peter Orszag, the director of the Office of Management and Budget, said the administration would prefer not to use the budget reconciliation process to push through its package. But he added: "We have to keep everything on the table. We want to get these.... important things done this year." Orszag called healthcare in particular "the key to our fiscal future."

Orszag made the comments on ABC’s "This Week with George Stephanopoulos."

Because they can not be filibustered, budget reconciliations only require 50 votes to pass the Senate. Democrats hold strong majorities in Congress, but still come up short of the 60 votes necessary in the Senate to end debate, which makes it easier for Republicans to block legislation. House rules in comparison make it harder for the minority party to stop bills.

Still, using budget reconciliation to pass policy proposals is controversial, even among some Democrats who believe doing so strains Senate rules and tradition.

The Obama blueprint calls for major changes in both energy and healthcare policies that is likely to engender significant opposition from Republicans and business lobbies. The reforms are expect to win widespread support from Democrats and more left-leaning constituencies.

The budget plan calls for a cap on carbon emissions, for example, and projects $645 billion in revenues from an auction of pollution permits that a variety of business groups, including oil companies, large manufacturers and utilities, would have to purchase.

On healthcare, the plan calls for a $634 billion reserve fund to pay for a first step on healthcare reform.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; 50vote; bho44; bhoomb; budgetreconciliation; cloture; communism; gangof14; gangofmccain; gangofnone; liberalism; marxism; nuclearoption; obama; orszag; senate; socialism; stalinism
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT

>>>>Just what is his definition of “bipartisanship”?<<<<

BOHICA.

I won you lost.

Now I control everything.


21 posted on 03/01/2009 5:07:37 PM PST by R0CK3T
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To: 17th Miss Regt
If he stops spending huge amounts of money in a year, then he is done until he is reelected. 2010 elections come into play and the 2012 elections affect him personally. So he needs to get this stuff done ASAP to limit damage to the Dems in 2010 and so that folks will forget and hence forgive in 2012.

Why bother? There won't be any election, come 2012.

22 posted on 03/01/2009 5:08:21 PM PST by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: 17th Miss Regt
Dems in 2010 and so that folks will forget and hence forgive in 2012.

I am one of little faith that there will be a 2012 Election at least in the sense of a unmanipulate and uncorrupted one.

The testing ground was the last Governers election in Washington State. The Minn. Senator debakel and ACORN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

23 posted on 03/01/2009 5:09:48 PM PST by jedi150
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To: oldbill
And the Republicans were so afraid of using the nuclear option.

That's why they are referred to as 'The Stupid Party'...

24 posted on 03/01/2009 5:11:32 PM PST by Who is John Galt? ("Sometimes I have to break the law in order to meet my management objectives." - Bill Calkins, BLM)
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To: jedi150
"debakel"

"He's on a roll"

25 posted on 03/01/2009 5:14:24 PM PST by Paladin2 (No, pundits strongly believe that the proper solution is more dilution.)
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To: cdchik123

One would think this would make the esteemed Congress feel a tad irrevelant. He is putting out the message that he doesn’t care what his congressional minions think, that he doesn’t need them. And if any of those Democratic Senators don’t agree with him? He’ll push them aside and get it done without them.

How can they be so blind? How can they continue to support a dictator?


26 posted on 03/01/2009 5:15:38 PM PST by Kenny
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To: Aglooka

it’s going to be a hell of a lot quicker than 10 years, how about 10 days


27 posted on 03/01/2009 5:17:32 PM PST by peace with honor
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To: oldbill

Show of hands of everyone who KNEW this day would come. Republicans were angst ridden over the nuclear option while we were screaming that the Democrats would bend the Senate in a pretzel in a heartbeat if it so inclined them.

Gang of 14, what do you have to say about this?


28 posted on 03/01/2009 5:19:25 PM PST by Obadiah (Party - my house - on December 22, 2012!)
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To: Who is John Galt?

And the Republicans were so afraid of using the nuclear option.

I think they were more interested in NOT being called “obstructionists”. When will they grow a spine!


29 posted on 03/01/2009 5:32:04 PM PST by acoulterfan
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To: cdchik123
Blame JUAN SYDNEY McAMNESTY! Kick that idiot out of the GOP.
30 posted on 03/01/2009 5:33:23 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bail out)
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To: 17th Miss Regt
So he needs to get this stuff done ASAP to limit damage to the Dems in 2010 and so that folks will forget and hence forgive in 2012.

Don't forget that Hussein and the dems will be presiding over a large tax increase in 2011.

31 posted on 03/01/2009 5:34:32 PM PST by jimtorr
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To: cdchik123

Breaking up the country is the only way if we really want to live Free.


32 posted on 03/01/2009 5:36:32 PM PST by Diggity
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To: jedi150
When are the Shepple going to wake up and realize that a Coup has taken place.

There are plenty of wolves in Shoeple clothing waiting for the right moment...

After the Tea Parties...

33 posted on 03/01/2009 5:37:45 PM PST by DTogo (Time to bring back the Sons of Liberty.)
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To: cdchik123

I am laughing at the Gang of 14. Ah...the comity of the Senate is so important. Damn fools.


34 posted on 03/01/2009 5:45:45 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: cdchik123

Calling John McCain, calling John McCain! Exactly what I predicted when Juan led the Gang of Fourteen to preserve the filibuster. His argument was that if Republicans spiked the filibuster they’d throw away their chances to use it when they were in the minority. I said at the time that when the Republicans were in the minority the Democrats would use the nuclear option to strip them even of that minority tactic.


35 posted on 03/01/2009 5:47:35 PM PST by Houghton M.
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To: cdchik123

“Orszag called healthcare in particular “the key to our fiscal future.” “

Further proof that Orszag is a charlatan, a snake oil salesman who now has his moment at the head of the boardwalk.

The 0bama healthcare provisions are prescriptions for massive adds to the already astronomical deficit, and the requisite taxation will push productive capital out of the US to more appealing tax structured countries. Then...the tax burden will fall lower on the economic scale, at proportionally higher rates.


36 posted on 03/01/2009 5:48:16 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: cdchik123
The budget plan calls for a cap on carbon emissions, for example, and projects $645 billion in revenues from an auction of pollution permits that a variety of business groups, including oil companies, large manufacturers and utilities, would have to purchase.

And if they REFUSE?

37 posted on 03/01/2009 5:50:39 PM PST by FreepShop1 (www.FreepShop.com)
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To: cdchik123

Rush’s speech was inspiring, but wishful thinking. The “American people” as currently exists, is the dumbest, most uneducated, selfish rabble that has ever existed in our history. And it seems clear that a majority don’t give a shit about our future.


38 posted on 03/01/2009 5:53:02 PM PST by FreepShop1 (www.FreepShop.com)
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To: PubliusMM
Further proof that Orszag is a charlatan, a snake oil salesman who now has his moment at the head of the boardwalk

And has one of the worst toupees I have ever seen.


39 posted on 03/01/2009 5:55:54 PM PST by FreepShop1 (www.FreepShop.com)
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To: rightwingextremist1776

It is tyranny and the Republicans need to use this word on TV every chance they get.


40 posted on 03/01/2009 6:05:53 PM PST by dandiegirl
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