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To: allmendream; Alamo-Girl; hosepipe; metmom; xzins; Does so
Only if you are completely ignorant of the support that all of the above lend to the theory could you state that the theory “stands or falls on the fossil record” alone.

I didn't state that, allmendream. Darwin did. I was merely quoting him.

You wrote: "The fossil record need not be “exhaustive” or perfect in order for it to be a treasure trove of data that supports the theory of evolution through natural selection of genetic variation."

Question: Has the term "random mutation" of the original orthodoxy been officially replaced by the term "genetic variation?" It seems to me there is a vast difference of meaning between the two terms. Was there something "faulty" about Darwin's original thinking that had to be corrected in light of new knowledge?

Well, I'll answer my own question: Of course there was. Darwin never heard about DNA, or relativity or quantum theory for that matter. His theory is constructed in terms of late Newtonian/classical thinking based on materialistic presuppositions. With DNA, we have learned that "immaterial" factors play out in nature — specifically, information from a "source" that no one's been able to localize in the spatiotemporal world of direct human experience. If such "corrections" keep going on what, at the end of the day, will remain of Darwin's theory?

And yet how passionately, even seemingly desperately, some people cling to it!

539 posted on 02/27/2009 1:39:38 PM PST by betty boop
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To: betty boop
Genetic variation is produced by mutations. Mutations appear in a probabilistic distribution (random). There is no difference, and there was nothing “faulty” about Darwin's thinking about the subject, he just didn't know how ‘varieties’ or ‘races’ within species came about, he just had the notion that their differential reproductive success would shape subsequent generations.

What non-materialistic presuppositions led you to conclude that DNA has “immaterial” factors that play out in nature?

What do you conclude was the “source” of the information that enabled a bacteria to digest nylon?

540 posted on 02/27/2009 1:43:46 PM PST by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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