Posted on 02/19/2009 11:41:26 AM PST by J. Neil Schulman
So far among other things you have called me evil, totalitarian, and theocrat, Taliban, too, as I recall.
Not exactly an argument for your position. Not to mention you are apparently completely unaware of what the Psalms have to say about when God knows the souls He creates. Hint: in the womb.
But let us not argue— May you be blessed by God in every way with His Presence, His Love, His Salvation, and His Joy. And may He teach you, quickly! what you do not know. I cede to you the rest of the discussion, as you have become, in my flawed opinion, boring.
Yo dumdum, you're the clown arguing that human beings are not human beings based on a theological perspective.
My argument is based on settled science. The unborn baby is a member of the species homo sapiens. This isn't arguable and it's entirely secular.
You, and your fellow pathetic pro abortion libertarians dehumanize unborn babies so you can look at yourself in the mirror and say 'oh what a good libertarian am I'.
You dole out rights like any good liberal. Rights for me but none for thee.
I know you won't take my advice but I'll offer it anyway. Crawl back in your pro abortion libertarian hidey hole and be content with writing verbose screeds about what a principled little libertarian you are.
It's better than making a fool out of yourself by making insane claims about human babies not being human until the cord is cut.
Regards.
jwalsh07 wrote:
‘Yo dumdum, you’re the clown arguing that human beings are not human beings based on a theological perspective. My argument is based on settled science. The unborn baby is a member of the species homo sapiens. This isn’t arguable and it’s entirely secular.”
Glad you finally admitted your modernist atheistic perspective.
Judith Anne wrote:
“But let us not argue— May you be blessed by God in every way with His Presence, His Love, His Salvation, and His Joy. And may He teach you, quickly! what you do not know.”
Beautifully said. I agree and pray the same for you.
Pure garbage.
You’ve distorted the Talmudic teachings to try to justify your amoral conclusion.
Pathetic, just like your defense of other immoral practices.
Did you watch the movie someone linked for you?
or are you too self-absorbed with your own propaganda to consider an opposing viewpoint.
Canedawg wrote:
“Pure garbage. You’ve distorted the Talmudic teachings to try to justify your amoral conclusion.”
At no point did I quote from the Talmud. Could you tell me what Talmudic teachings you refer to, Rabbi?
Homosex is a sick and vile perversion, and it’s an utter shame that we are even having this national discussion.
It’s an even bigger shame that the courts are likely to overturn my vote banning this travesty.
I personally will never understand why you libertarians want to remove a beautiful institution like marriage from our national landscape. The legal rights connected to marriage make very little sense apart from the institution itself.
It is more than a merely religious issue, although it certainly has religious aspects to it. Fortunately, this is a Christian nation and I am okay with religious concepts within my government.
It will be an utter shame when liberals and libertarians remove all vestiges of Christ from our government
In your snarky, smirky manner you claimed that a “Hebrew” teaching as to the soul filling a person does not occur until they take their first breath, and that is hogwash.
Your intellectually perverse reasoning to support your maladjustment to conventional morality is a transparent attempt to justify barbaric and abominable behaviors.
Dont bother responding, because i have no further interest in reading your crap.
How droll. You make light of the Holy Spirit and expect me to believe He leads you in interpreting scripture. Sorry, but no.
MEGoody wrote:
“’Really? The Holy Spirit posted a reply to me in this discussion?’
“How droll. You make light of the Holy Spirit and expect me to believe He leads you in interpreting scripture. Sorry, but no.”
It wasn’t the Holy Spirit I was making light of in this discussion. It’s people like you who invoke the name of the Holy Spirit to spread their own poisonous bigotry.
Canedawg wrote:
“In your snarky, smirky manner you claimed that a “Hebrew” teaching as to the soul filling a person does not occur until they take their first breath, and that is hogwash.”
That was, in fact, the belief of the Biblical Hebrews, whether you choose to believe it or not.
“Your intellectually perverse reasoning to support your maladjustment to conventional morality is a transparent attempt to justify barbaric and abominable behaviors.”
MY maladjustment to conventional morality? I was married to a woman and procreated. You have a problem with that?
“Dont bother responding, because i have no further interest in reading your crap.”
I am not posting to you privately. You write to me in public I’ll respond to you in public. If you’re incapable of making a compelling argument I want others to be exposed to the inadequacy of your challenge.
So it is bigotry to you to challenge you who clearly said YOU can interpret the scriptures, when scripture itself says interpretation is of the Holy Spirit? Got it. Thanks for clearly illustrating my point.
MEGoody wrote in Message 65: “It isn’t me who is the ‘arbiter’ but the Holy Spirit, and he’s already shown you are out on a limb with your ‘interpretation.’”
You’re claiming you can tell me that I’m “out on a limb” with my interpretation of scripture because the Holy Spirit has shown you the true meaning.
OK, if that’s not a claim that MEGoody has a direct revelation from the Holy Spirit to understand the meaning of scripture then what is it?
Yes.
OK, if that’s not a claim that MEGoody has a direct revelation from the Holy Spirit to understand the meaning of scripture then what is it?
Well, of course it is. I never claimed otherwise. In fact, I've already said repeatedly the Holy Spirit is the only correct interpreter of scripture. I know who I've been receiving teaching from - Him. And you've told us that you are the one doing the interpreting for yourself.
MEGoody wrote:” I’ve already said repeatedly the Holy Spirit is the only correct interpreter of scripture. I know who I’ve been receiving teaching from - Him. And you’ve told us that you are the one doing the interpreting for yourself.”
Yes. I won’t blame the Holy Spirit for my own interpretations of scripture. I won’t claim infallability for myself, as you do.
I do, nonetheless, inform anyone who finds it relevant that I’ve been the object of divine guidance. But no one is required to believe me.
So what you are saying is that it upsets you that I know Who I am listening to and you don't. Got it.
I started to read your book, The Rainbow Cadenza, but couldn’t finish it. I can’t remember the specifics, but I cast it aside where the heroine watches a youngish woman being raped and sort of gets turned on by the act.
LOL Way to twist what I've said. Of course you know I've never said I was infallible. What I said was I know whom I am listening to. HE is the one who is infallible.
I do, nonetheless, inform anyone who finds it relevant that I’ve been the object of divine guidance.
However, you are either not sure whether the Holy Spirit is guiding you in interpreting the scriptures, or you are certain He is not.
MEGoody wrote:
“’Yes. I won’t blame the Holy Spirit for my own interpretations of scripture. I won’t claim infallability for myself, as you do.’
“So what you are saying is that it upsets you that I know Who I am listening to and you don’t. Got it.”
You’ve got it wrong. I know I’ve been on touch with God. But I won’t demand others worship God through me, as does anyone who claims the authority of scripture or of the Holy Spirit to demand others regard what is their human — and therefore incomplete and error-prone perceptions and opinions — as divine.
GSWarrior wrote:
“I started to read your book, The Rainbow Cadenza, but couldn’t finish it. I can’t remember the specifics, but I cast it aside where the heroine watches a youngish woman being raped and sort of gets turned on by the act.”
My heroine is not turned on and is in fact repelled by what she is forced to watch. You quit reading too soon. Here is dialogue from the following scene:
Later that night, after they returned to Charlotte Amalie, he took Joan into his house and stopped her. “You didn’t like the hunt, did you?” he asked.
“I thought it was reprehensible,” she said.
“Excellent,” he said.
The point to the scene is one of the villain’s manipulations of the heroine to degrade her ... a degradation that she survives and triumphs over.
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