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To: Carry_Okie

Well, it’s a vehicle. You provide a place for your employees to park it. Still, it’s there vehicle, not yours. The law, in my not so humble opinion is being fair here. Your parking lot, their car. If you tore up the pavement and planted grass and trees, they couldn’t put their cards there, and now you don’t have to worry if their self protection is in those cars, as they cars aren’t there.

An airplane, filled with God knows what, flies over your land. What rights do you have to said airplane? What about a hoovering helicopter? A hot air balloon?

The land is yours, permanently. The cars are not yours. I’m sure no one is going to say otherwise. It’s neither a superior or inferior claim.

Don’t like the law? Unpave the parking lot and plant trees.


144 posted on 02/19/2009 7:15:33 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!; Carry_Okie; Pete-R-Bilt; Squantos

I think the idea of private property open to the public is key here.

Can you open a restaurant and put out a ‘No Whites’ sign?

Well, you can. Hmmmm.

You’ll find there is a civil rights issue that will interfere with your bias based upon civil rights law, as it relates to private property in the public arena. Got wheelchair access?

Ya know, the right to keep and bear arms is a civil right too. Perspective.

Now, if I don’t want whites on my ranch, by golly, I can do it. Black labs and asian babes only! And NO ACCORDIONS!


152 posted on 02/19/2009 7:42:37 PM PST by glock rocks (Zero: black, white, and red all over. Let's party like it's 1939!)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Before I take this post, let it be said that from the beginning, I agreed with the ruling. That does not mean that there are not issues associated with it that render it an interesting test of property rights versus rights to armed self-defense. Only a brainless ideologue thinks there aren't.

The law, in my not so humble opinion is being fair here.

Now, if I run a place of business with a parking lot, do I want the cost for the maintenance of additional private security to demonstrate to a potential court that I took measures to protect the unarmed from an armed nutjob?

No.

Do I want the cost of liability for not having broken up an armed dispute on my property?

No.

Do I want the deep-pocket liability for secondary damages caused by stolen weapons taken from a parked car on my lot?

No.

Do I want the cost of adding additional fencing, etc. to preclude such an event? What if I'm just a mom and pop shop?

Now, mind you, these few I just dreamed up in a couple of minutes. The point is, there are issues in this tension between a private landowner and the owner of a weapon desiring to leave it in his car. Frankly, as a business owner, I'd feel safer if he carried it into the building and checked it at the door. Wouldn't you? But then, how would you feel handing a loaded weapon to a guy you just fired?

160 posted on 02/19/2009 8:18:55 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The fouth estate is the fifth column.)
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