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To: calex59
I can't argue with a idiot, but I am going to try one last time: Under the law as it currently exists in most states and under the commonlaw going back to the days of Blackstone, the relationship between the employer and non-contract employees is a "contract at will."

That means that an employee can quit at anytime and for any reason or for no reason and an employer can fire an employee at any time for any reason or for no reason at all, provided the reason is not otherwise illegal, such as the employee's race, ethnicity, religion, gender, age, disability, and in some states, sexual orientation, and now in Oklahoma, the possession of a firearm. What that means is that in just about every state, I can fire an at-will employee because I don't like the color of the car they drive, the make of the car they drive, the color of their hair, the size of their ass, the size of their brain, what they eat for lunch, or the weather. I can fire them because they swore at me to my face, while they were parked in their car on my lot, or simply because I heard a rumor that they may have swore at me while sitting on a beach ten thousand miles a way. I can fire them because they use foul language or don't use foul language or because they smoke or don't smoke or because they drink or don't drink. In nearly every state, I can also fire them because they possess a firearm on their person or in their car while on my property. In fact, I can fire them because they refuse to possess or carry a firearm. The best part is that I can fire them just because I feel like firing them.

109 posted on 02/19/2009 2:23:14 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Labyrinthos
an employer can fire an employee at any time for any reason or for no reason at all, provided the reason is not otherwise illegal, such as the employee's race, ethnicity, religion, gender, age, disability, and in some states, sexual orientation, and now in Oklahoma, the possession of a firearm.

So you can't fire me for being a black, Persian, Muslim, homosexual male that is 70 years old with a bad back and you worry about a weapon in my trunk.

Your priorities are interesting......

115 posted on 02/19/2009 2:45:33 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: Labyrinthos

And I suppose everyone who deals with you has the right to fire you.

Try offloading a semitrailer off your property and parked on the street. Maybe that truckdriver couldn’t find a parking place closer than a block away.

It works both ways. If you want to make it more difficult for your employees to work for a living, maybe they will find a way to make it difficult for you to make a profit.


125 posted on 02/19/2009 4:09:22 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: Labyrinthos
The only idiot I can see it you. If you think you can regulate what people have in their cars, you are a total idot. Your property rights don't extend to others, don't extend to other peoples cars and what they have in them or what they can say while in the cars, whether parked on your property or anywhere.

The only idiot is one who thinks that property rights only pertain to an employer and not to the employee.

Once again, f*** you and the horse you rode in on, don't bother answering this comment because I really don't care what you have to say. You are plainly and control freak who thinks that their rights extend to the point of denying any rights to those who work for you.

You are flying in the face of laws passed by most states that say that an employees car is their home an castle. So, once again, F*** Off, and I hope you have a terrible day!

126 posted on 02/19/2009 4:19:22 PM PST by calex59
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To: Labyrinthos

You are correct. There is no free speech at work. There is no freedom of assembly. However, by legislation, OK has made gun possession in an automobile a “protected class.” I would think that most conservatives would run away from this distinction, but obviously not.

And those who continue to disagree with you have no concept of what being an “employer” construes. I fire folks for bad attitudes at least a few times a year. Someday those who are so wedded to idea that the 2nd Amendment trumps all will see laws that protect “speech” on company property, etc... and maybe, just maybe, they will understand what you are trying to say. I wonder if these same folks would object to a union organizer having the legal “right” to be in your parking lot (freedom of association).


127 posted on 02/19/2009 4:51:21 PM PST by McChordwatcher (Mostly lurking these days)
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To: Labyrinthos

You are making a spectacle of yourself. Simple fact is no one can deny a citizen constitutionally protected rights to bear arms. At-will employment, quitting, being fired, etc are extraneous issues.


138 posted on 02/19/2009 6:15:55 PM PST by FlyingEagle
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