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Police hospitalize 7-year-old under Baker Act (Against Parents Wishes)
St. Petersburg Times ^ | 15 Feb 09 | Jonathan Abel

Posted on 02/15/2009 10:30:02 PM PST by vivalaoink

LARGO — Police this week removed an unruly 7-year-old from his classroom and forced him to be hospitalized under the state's Baker Act — against the wishes of his outraged parents.

The boy spent the night alone at Morton Plant Hospital before he was seen by a child psychologist the next day and discharged.

"This is a total abuse of police power," said the boy's father, Richard Smith, 41. "My son has no mental health problems. He's never hurt himself. He's never hurt anyone else."

Smith and his wife, Barbara, said they want to consult a lawyer.

But Largo deputy police Chief John Carroll said his officers did the right thing.."

(Excerpt) Read more at tampabay.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bakeract; child; publicschool
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1 posted on 02/15/2009 10:30:02 PM PST by vivalaoink
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To: vivalaoink

Boys will be boys. Leave it to liberals to turn a simple temper tantrum into a big a thing. I’ll bet you anything it was a public school.


2 posted on 02/15/2009 10:39:10 PM PST by pleasenoobama (Liberals lied, small government died)
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To: vivalaoink

Perhaps it made enough of an impact on the boy that he won’t repeat the behavior at school.


3 posted on 02/15/2009 10:41:30 PM PST by PAR35
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To: vivalaoink

Your kids are not your own. They belong to the state. How long must the fascist tyranny be supported?


4 posted on 02/15/2009 10:48:25 PM PST by LuxMaker (The Constitution is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, Thomas J 1819)
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To: vivalaoink

Not enough information to say, without knowing what the kid did. However, I have seen some pretty outrageous behavior by *little kids*. Of course, I think the answer is to call the parent and tell them they must take the child out of the school and they may not bring them back for a set amount of time. And after the second or third time they have to remove the child, they are done and may not come back. This may sound harsh but it is almost impossible for schools to deal with some of these out of control kids.

I would invite those who say the school over reacted (based on this article) to go and work at a public school for a year. And yes, I strongly support home schooling.


5 posted on 02/15/2009 10:51:32 PM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: LuxMaker

The parents can choose to home school. Otherwise what do you suggest the schools do with out of control children?


6 posted on 02/15/2009 10:52:26 PM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: vivalaoink

Time to homeschool....before liberals outlaw that, too.


7 posted on 02/15/2009 10:53:49 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (The Biggest Threat To American Soverignty Is Rampant Economic Anti-Americanism)
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To: brytlea

Sounds like it might have been more than just a temper tantrum.


8 posted on 02/15/2009 10:53:56 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg
It does. I doubt the school and the police would prefer not to do this sort of thing, but something made them feel it was necessary.
9 posted on 02/15/2009 11:01:00 PM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: PAR35
I was at my grandson's kindergarten class and a parent was discussing with the teacher her and her husbands total lack of control of their son. It was within earshot of the brat. I stayed with my grandson and the boy WAS out of control. It was chaos in that classroom.
The next day I went back to the classroom and there was an older substitute teacher. After the child ran around the classroom, yelling and screaming she tried to settle him down. He climbed up on the arm of a chair and proceeded to jump down on the children drawing on the mat below him. She finally had enough and took him to the office and refused to allow him back into her classroom. The other children that were acting up when he was there, settled down after the bad influence was removed. From there on, it was a learning atmosphere.
When you can't control a kindergarten age child, what will they be like when they are older?
Whose children lose out when the classroom time is devoted to trying to control obnoxious children rather than teaching?
10 posted on 02/15/2009 11:01:08 PM PST by mckenzie7 ( mohammed = 666)
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To: vivalaoink

A good spanking might solve the problem. Oh? You can’t spank your own child anymore? Okay. Then spank someone else’s child as an example to your child. He’ll get the message.

(For you youngster, this was an old “line” comedians used to tell how “hard” their lives were in the 30’s.

Example: My dad was so tough the he’s spank my older brother just to show me what I would get if I misbehaved.

Or. My dad was so tough that he spanked my brother for something I’m going to do in the future.

Now, about that Glock the kid had in his lunchbox.


11 posted on 02/15/2009 11:01:41 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: mckenzie7

well said Mck. then as soon as the little monster really goes goofy, stabs 2 classmates in the eye with a pencil or something along that line....damn. I do not condone the police coming into the school for this tho, your example of an older teacher working out the problem was def. the proper response I believe.


12 posted on 02/15/2009 11:08:18 PM PST by bobby.223
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To: brytlea
Otherwise what do you suggest the schools do with out of control children?

In the old days, the principal kept a paddle in his office if the teacher couldn't handle it in the classroom.

13 posted on 02/15/2009 11:09:08 PM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Which would be an option...but isn’t.


14 posted on 02/15/2009 11:16:02 PM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: LuxMaker
How long must the fascist tyranny be supported?

As long as the sheeple allow and support it.

15 posted on 02/15/2009 11:22:58 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I *LOVE* my Attitude Problem - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: mckenzie7

I have several friends who teach kindergarten and 1st grade. They say the kids get worse every year, and most are just counting the days til they can retire. But, go to any public place and see how kids act there. It’s all I can do to hold my tongue while I watch a parent BEG their child to behave and then doing absolutely nothing with the child either ignores them or tells them no.
Case in point, I was at the PO Friday mailing a package. A man walked in with 2 kids (and his dog, why are people bringing their dogs into places like the Post Office??). At any rate, the youngest child (she looked about 5ish) ignored virtually everything her Dad asked her to do. Then she walked out of the doors into the outer part (where the post office boxes are) and could easily have walked right out the door and into the street. The Dad told the older boy (he looked about 9) to go get her. The boy refused. Dad stood there in line and kept asking the boy to get his sister. Finally, the little girl came back in on her own. She was never reprimanded for going out there. I’m sorry, but these kids are in charge. That is completely nuts. But, such are parents today. It’s no wonder kids do not behave in school. They don’t behave anywhere else either.


16 posted on 02/15/2009 11:23:13 PM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: brytlea
Otherwise what do you suggest the schools do with out of control children?

The principal's paddle served as a deterrent in my day. Bring it back.

17 posted on 02/15/2009 11:28:51 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: brytlea

My nine year old nephew acted up in a restaurant when his grandparents took him on a trip with them to the beach. His grandfather grabbed his arm at one point and swatted him hard on the buttocks, telling him to sit down, behave, and be quiet.

Some woman from a nearby table arose, approached the table and said, “I’m a social worker with the State of ———, and I’m going to call the police. You’re abusing that child!”

My nephew (a real anarchist at heart!) was delighted. His grandparents left the restaurant without dinner that night, just to avoid the cops.

THAT OUGHT TO TELL EVERYONE A DISGUSTING MESSAGE!!


18 posted on 02/15/2009 11:40:22 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!!)
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To: brytlea

Yes.


19 posted on 02/15/2009 11:41:18 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Smokin' Joe

I agree, but it’s not an option right now.


20 posted on 02/15/2009 11:43:13 PM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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