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To: nathanbedford
But whenever the facts on the ground, why are we spewing rubbish?

Why don't you ask your friend Lurker about that? As far as I know, he is the one trashing every Rush thread he can find with utterly nonsensical comments like, “Rush is as dangerous man, as dangerous as Obama.” He calls him  a fat fraud and other personal insults.  He offers no positive commentary.  So your comment “If you disagree with his opinion argue a point but lay off the ad hominem” should be directed at him.

Why are we fulminating about resistance that will never materialize?

How do you know that? You can't possibly know what's going to happen in the future. Certainly we the people can directly influence the political landscape in the future at future elections. There are going to be national elections in 2 years, and if we get organized and get quality conservative representatives, we can put a good number of democrats out of power in the House and in the Senate. Also, as a group we can influence policy making, though I agree that having the House, Senate, and WH in the hands of socialists that will make that difficult, for now.

Elections have consequences, and those who couldn't vote for a GOP candidate because he wasn't “conservative enough” are now wallowing in the path of defeat and self-destruction, indulging in empty rhetoric, and pointing the finger of blame to those on our side.  Those who didn't vote and allowed this two-bit commie with no job experience to become the most powerful man in the world have no credibility in telling the rest of us who worked hard against Obama that our ideas won't materialize.  Indeed, those who will ultimately get something done are those that are active.

And I haven't personally called Lurker a traitor, but just by reading some of the comments on FR today, I've found out the Lurker has attacked the Republican Party, Rush, Hannity, as well as several Freepers.  That to me is certainly unduly negative and has no place on FR.

You three have been around these threads for a long time, approaching nearly 10 years each

Well, for starters, these threads haven't been active for nearly ten years. They have been posted in recent days!  But besides that, I've been in politics since my dad got me involved at 8 years old, though I'm still young I've been in the political arena for far more than 10 years. However, you aren't a spring chicken either. You've been on FR for 7 years and you still don't understand that most Freepers aren't defeatists. Sure, some are (as we can see on this thread), but most people are positive - and the reason we come to this site is to join forces based on our common conservative ideals. 

Once one “of us” starts trashing us and attacks us, then something is broken. Disagreements happen, sure, and they are normal and can be productive.  But bitter negativity isn't helpful.  Yes, we have a difficult road ahead.  Yes, anecdotal evidence often isn't meaningful.  But 2008 isn't the last election the USA will ever have.  We will win some and we will lose some.  That's the mature approach, not unbridled negativity.

If you're willing to say that there will be consequences to shutting down talk radio, you should be willing to lay them out when challenged. If you assert an alternative plan, you should be able to tell us about it when challenged.

The consequences are largely legal.  Reinstitution of the Fairness Doctrine will be challenged in the courts.  Our side will win some of those battles and lose some of those battles.  Radio host Mark Levin is personally looking forward to being invited at Congressional hearings, as well as launching law suits to challenge a new Fairness Doctrine.  He isn't alone, either.  These cases will take years to settle.  They just may win, too.  And in any event, that buys our side more time, and the GOP can make inroads in Congress and maybe win a chamber (or two).  It's happened before, it can happen again.  There are other consequences and strategies, but I need not explore them here.  One, I don't claim to know all the strategies those on our side may have.  Second, why should anyone on our side publicize detailed plans of our defensive strategy?

And one more thing... no one has attacked L, he attacked Rush and attacked Freepers with his comments, and we simply responded in kind, so stop whining! But hey, I guess you felt the need to do a friendly little rescue, huh?

P.S. Going to play tennis and enjoy it.

108 posted on 02/14/2009 10:53:33 AM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul
P.S. Going to play tennis and enjoy it.

One of the many great scenes from the movie, Patton occurs when the General wakes a sleeping soldier and asks him what he's doing on the floor. The soldier replies, "I'm trying to get some sleep, General." Paton orders the soldier to go back to sleep saying, "you are the only son of a bitch around here knows what he's doing."

Enjoy your tennis game


111 posted on 02/14/2009 11:44:09 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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