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ENERGY: SoCal Edison signs large solar-power deal
North County Times ^ | February 11, 2009 | CHRIS BAGLEY

Posted on 02/13/2009 12:21:34 PM PST by calcowgirl

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1 posted on 02/13/2009 12:21:35 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

I suspect that if areas outside LA and San Deigo get this additional power, then that would probably free up other power for the LA and San Diego areas.


2 posted on 02/13/2009 12:23:23 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Bipartisainship is now about a 3 to 532 vote on Capital Hill.)
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To: ElkGroveDan; SierraWasp; Carry_Okie; tubebender; Czar; NormsRevenge; CounterCounterCulture; ...

RFK jr and Tamminen are on their way to raking in the big bucks as a result of Arnie’s “green” mandates.

These folks make me sick.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2115780/posts

CA: Startup with link to governor pushes for plant OK (BrightSource)


3 posted on 02/13/2009 12:24:12 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: DoughtyOne

See the link above:

“The Associated Press reported earlier this month that a Schwarzenegger relative, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and his former environmental secretary, Terry Tamminen, are part of a private investment group that could score a lucrative payoff if regulators approve the BrightSource complex.”


4 posted on 02/13/2009 12:27:27 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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How come they never tell us how much it is actually going to cost to set up and run these “miracle energy supply plants”? I would bet my bottom dollar it won’t be cost effective - that is, unless they charge the consumer an arm and a leg for their “product”.


5 posted on 02/13/2009 12:29:06 PM PST by REPANDPROUDOFIT
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To: calcowgirl

Wonderful.


6 posted on 02/13/2009 12:34:08 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Bipartisainship is now about a 3 to 532 vote on Capital Hill.)
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To: calcowgirl
The focused sunlight would heat water into steam. That steam, in turn, would drive the turbines whose spinning creates alternating-current electricity.

Do they recover the steam back to water? If not, how do you get that water in the middle of desert?
7 posted on 02/13/2009 12:35:43 PM PST by Daus (War is God's way of teaching Americans geography. - Ambrose Bierce)
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Well, first you get the land free — loaned from the BLM. Then you have federal and state government invest in “infrastructure” on your behalf. Perhaps call it “stimulus” or “investment” and say that it “creates jobs.”

See? It’s easy if you have the right people controlling the law and a big purse of taxpayer dollars.


8 posted on 02/13/2009 12:39:50 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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is this the one where the Enviroweenies won’t let them build the transmission lines needed to actually bring the electricity into San Diego and LA where it is needed?


9 posted on 02/13/2009 12:43:18 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: DoughtyOne

But at a huge cost. In Canada, Ontario Power Generation signed a contract with a solar plant where they pay seven times the retail rate for 20 years- I suspect that the pricing of this deal is similar.


10 posted on 02/13/2009 12:58:21 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (TSA and DHS are jobs programs for people who are not smart enough to flip burgers)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I don’t remember that related to this SCE arrangement.

I seem to remember something like that published about a San Diego Gas & Electric’s “Sunrise Powerlink” project.
I think Brightsource has also been trying to strike deals with SDG&E, though, so it all may be the same thing.


11 posted on 02/13/2009 12:59:08 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Hope the endangered desert tortoises enjoy the shade below those mirrors!


12 posted on 02/13/2009 1:00:16 PM PST by BigBobber
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To: Squawk 8888

If so, I would oppose the deal.

As I understand it, the profitability of these plants is very suspect. That confounds me, but if it’s true, not a dime should be wasted on them.


13 posted on 02/13/2009 1:00:52 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Bipartisainship is now about a 3 to 532 vote on Capital Hill.)
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14 posted on 02/13/2009 1:10:01 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: calcowgirl

LMAO What is the cost of the subsidized Electric $26.00 a Kilowatt??


15 posted on 02/13/2009 1:27:25 PM PST by Cheetahcat (Osamabama the Wright kind of Racist!)
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To: calcowgirl; All
Boondoggle! We get VERY LITTLE bang for the buck from Solar Power. Even in the best of situations, say in Arizona in the summertime we only get about 6 hours of good sunlight. The media has done a terrible job informing the public about Solar Power and what a fraud it is.

For the money we are spending on solar we could build a few dozen Nuclear Power Plants. Now this would really be a benefit.
16 posted on 02/13/2009 1:39:28 PM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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Edison and BrightSource provided little detail on how they hope to transmit the electricity from the first site, on federally owned land 70 miles south of Las Vegas.

I wonder if this is connected to Harry Reid's $8 billion hi-speed-rail project included in the stimulus bill. It apparently provides for laying tracks from So Cal to the Las Vegas area. Prior articles said the hi-rail proposal follows the lines of I-15 which lines up with where this Brightsource project is reported to be located. If the government gets an easement for all the land to lay tracks, presumably they could run power lines along with it, or assign that right to a Brightsource type entity.

Just thinkin' out loud.

17 posted on 02/13/2009 1:42:04 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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LMAO What is the cost of the subsidized Electric $26.00 a Kilowatt??

I'm not versed in the costs of various alternatives so I didn't understand your post.

18 posted on 02/13/2009 1:43:48 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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$2 billion for California. Wish I could figure out a way to get a piece.


19 posted on 02/13/2009 2:01:46 PM PST by Mojave (Barack Obama is a joke)
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To: calcowgirl
I'm not versed in the costs of various alternatives so I didn't understand your post.

All these miracle electric sources are heavily subsidized Photovoltaic is in the Mid 20's if memory serves and coal is the cheapest.

20 posted on 02/13/2009 2:06:10 PM PST by Cheetahcat (Osamabama the Wright kind of Racist!)
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