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To: visually_augmented; SvenMagnussen; mlo; curiosity; Michael Michael
Why did Occidental College not immediately comply with a legal order?

First of all, the source is WorldNutDaily, so I don't trust their account. I would not be very surprised if they were making this stuff up, as they have been known to do in the past.

Second of all, there are certain privacy laws colleges have to follow. I'm not a lawyer, but I seriously doubt they can just release student records to any plaintiff who asks for them. I'm pretty sure a judge has to order it, and I seriously doubt that's happened here.

Finally, even if Obama were trying to prevent the release of his college records, I would not find it particularly revealing. It's no secret that Obama was on drugs at the time (he admited it). There's probably a lot of stuff in those records he's embarassed about. His grades were likely bad, and it's pretty likely he had some disciplinary troubels as well. I wouldn't be surprised if it came out he was put on probation for a semester or two. If he had a poor record at Occidental, it would raise questions as to how he got into Columbia. It's usually the good students who transfer to better schools, not the bad ones. It's very possible that Columbia admitted him for reasons unrelated to his merits as a student, and he doesn't want that to come out.

For all the above reasons, I would agree that his failure to release college records is a valid piece of the case against voting for him.

However, that horse has left the barn. Furthermore, nothing in those records could possibly make him ineligible from the presidency, since nothing in those records has anything to do with whether he is a natural born citizen or not.

And no, he was never an Indonesian citizen. That has been decisively ruled out, so the allegation that he was a registered as a foreign student is so absurd that it does not merit much comment.

The simplest, most plausible explanation for why he doesn't want to release his college records is they will show him to have been a slacker druggie during his Occidental years and he doesn't want that to come out.

123 posted on 02/13/2009 2:50:17 PM PST by curiosity
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To: curiosity

If Obama is ineligible to be POTUS, then Petitioners endured irreparable harm and are entitled to court costs, attorney’s fees and damages.

Further, Petitioners are asking the Court to issue a Writ of Mandamus concerning the SoS of California for specific procedures to be followed to vet future candidates. If Obama has successfully hidden his ineligibility from the SoS, then it will be instructive to the Court as to how he did it and in establishing procedures and guidelines to ensure it doesn’t happen again.

The Court’s need to know outweighs Obama’s need to maintain his privacy because the people of the State of California are deprived of their right to an constitutionally eligible President.


134 posted on 02/13/2009 4:28:46 PM PST by SvenMagnussen (Change is coming!)
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To: curiosity
"And no, he was never an Indonesian citizen. That has been decisively ruled out, so the allegation that he was a registered as a foreign student is so absurd that it does not merit much comment". That is absolutely not true. The Television show Inside Edition went to Jakarta's Francis Assisi Scool, and filed a registration form that listed his name as Barry Soetero, religion: Muslim, and an Indonesian citizen. I want to see all this evidence tested in a proper court of law, where Hussein's counsels get an opportunity to rebut it. You do not, and that is why you speak like an enemy of the rule of law. There is MORE than enough evidence for adjudication. Student Soetero
146 posted on 02/13/2009 6:12:42 PM PST by DMZFrank
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To: curiosity

From the article posted: “In the case, handled largely by Gary Kreep of the U.S. Justice Foundation, records were subpoenaed documenting Obama’s attendance at Occidental College.”

curiosity:”Second of all, there are certain privacy laws colleges have to follow. I’m not a lawyer, but I seriously doubt they can just release student records to any plaintiff who asks for them. I’m pretty sure a judge has to order it, and I seriously doubt that’s happened here.”

Based on the article, you are incorrect. Occidental College was issued a subpoena for these records. Which is exactly why Obama’s team became so hostile as shown below:

From the article: “Woocher warned, “Please be advised, in particular, that in the event we are forced to file a motion to quash and we prevail in that motion, we will seek the full measure of monetary sanctions provided for in the Code of Civil Procedures.”

The hornets nest has been riled up! This is a good sign that these cases are starting to make the Obama team nervous. And as you indicated from your post, Obama probably has a lot to be nervous about...


152 posted on 02/13/2009 6:29:52 PM PST by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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To: curiosity

re: Oxy, O being a slacker

He wrote about drugs, bad grades, being an activist re: Aparteid/Mandela already.

When was Indonesian citizenship ruled out btw?

Have a link?

Was it on the basis of he was just adopted and not required to be a citizen in Indonesia (Law)?

If so, where are the documents via name change?

I would like to know how easy would it be to get into Pakistan from Indonesia on school breaks with an US passport (even though his college roomie with him was Paki)?


526 posted on 02/18/2009 4:36:12 AM PST by AliVeritas (And while the rest of the nation was still sleepin', they'll be bidding America goodbye.)
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