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Two satellites collide in orbit
Spaceflight Now ^ | February 11, 2009 | WILLIAM HARWOOD

Posted on 02/11/2009 1:39:00 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares

In an unprecedented space collision, a commercial Iridium communications satellite and a presumably defunct Russian Cosmos satellite ran into each other Tuesday above northern Siberia, creating a cloud of wreckage, officials said today.

The international space station does not appear to be threatened by the debris, they said, but it's not yet clear whether it poses a risk to any other military or civilian satellites.

"They collided at an altitude of 790 kilometers (491 miles) over northern Siberia Tuesday about noon Washington time," said Nicholas Johnson, NASA's chief scientist for orbital debris at the Johnson Space Center in Houston. "The U.S. space surveillance network detected a large number of debris from both objects."

One source said nearly 300 fragments were being tracked, but Johnson said it was not yet clear how much debris was generated.

"It's going to take a while," he said. "It's very, very difficult to discriminate all those objects when they're really close together. And so, over the next couple of days, we'll have a much better understanding. But it's at a minimum, I think we're talking many, many dozens, if not hundreds."

(Excerpt) Read more at spaceflightnow.com ...


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KEYWORDS: satellites; space
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To: Pearls Before Swine

what about those cool equatorial rings lucas liked to put around space explosions?


21 posted on 02/11/2009 1:49:15 PM PST by absolootezer0 (thank God for Chicago: makes Detroit look wholesome by comparison.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

at least 300 pieces,, dang, that hurts.


22 posted on 02/11/2009 1:49:44 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

This makes you wonder why it does not happen more often...

http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/link=/headline_universe/images/orbital_debris_big_jpg_image.html


23 posted on 02/11/2009 1:50:55 PM PST by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: theDentist

I think it was an accident. it was only a Civilian satellite for satellite telephones and pagers. not a high priority satellite or a military satellite.


24 posted on 02/11/2009 1:52:03 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: AvOrdVet

Hmm... how do I get the pic to upload?


25 posted on 02/11/2009 1:52:10 PM PST by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: ThomasThomas

Wouldn’t a 20,000+ km per hour collision produce enough gaseous debris to constitute a micro-atmosphere, to transmit sound waves?


26 posted on 02/11/2009 1:53:01 PM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: Joiseydude

My thoughts exactly.


27 posted on 02/11/2009 1:53:54 PM PST by KSCITYBOY
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Didn’t DOD buy out the company that put the Iridium up and start using it for military use?


28 posted on 02/11/2009 1:54:24 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Somewhere In Kenya, A Village Is Missing It's Idiot)
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To: AvOrdVet

I would like to see that picture in motion, it would look like a huge scrambled mess.


29 posted on 02/11/2009 1:54:41 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: AvOrdVet
This makes you wonder why it does not happen more often...

Because if each of those dots really were satellites to a 1:1 scale, then each satellite, considering that they are in orbit, would have to be larger than a couple of cities.

30 posted on 02/11/2009 1:55:06 PM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

More stuff to avoid when flying around up there. And let’s hope the Iranian one up there accidentally collides with something.


31 posted on 02/11/2009 1:55:43 PM PST by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Did either of the satellites’ operators have insurance?


32 posted on 02/11/2009 1:56:24 PM PST by seatrout (I wouldn't know most "American Idol" winners if I tripped over them!)
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To: Steve Van Doorn


Chinese are getting very sophisticated in a short amount of time. Seems the 1990s became a technological enlightenment for the red and yellow government. Hmmmmmm, wonder how that happened.
33 posted on 02/11/2009 1:56:26 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: library user
This got moved to the chatroom in a hurry.

It was originally posted into Chat. We've moved it to Frontpage, it is an interesting story.

34 posted on 02/11/2009 1:56:56 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Doctor Raoul

Seems like I recall that as well.


35 posted on 02/11/2009 1:57:17 PM PST by Constitution Day (echo)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
The system is being used extensively by the U.S. Department of Defense through the DoD gateway in Hawaii.[7] The DoD pays $36 million a year for unlimited access for up to 20,000 users[8] The commercial gateway in Tempe, Arizona, provides voice, data, and paging services for commercial customers on a global basis. Typical customers include maritime, aviation, government, the petroleum industry, scientists, and frequent world travelers.

Iridium satellites are now an essential component of communications with remote science camps, especially the Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station. As of December 2006, an array of twelve Iridium modems was put online, providing 24/7 data services to the station for the first time. Total bandwidth is 28.8 kbit/s.[9]

36 posted on 02/11/2009 1:57:46 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Somewhere In Kenya, A Village Is Missing It's Idiot)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

Its various debris... I went to Cheyenne Mountain (NORAD) one time and they are tracking every thing in orbit, from early Apollo tools to paint chips...


37 posted on 02/11/2009 1:58:49 PM PST by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: Names Ash Housewares

WHAT HAPPEN?


38 posted on 02/11/2009 1:59:14 PM PST by RichInOC (WHAT YOU SAY!!)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

I’d think there would have been frequent near misses leading up to this, given the speed and the described force of impact. That is, unless somebody’s orbit changed.

How long has this Irridium satellite been operational, and how long has the “presumably defunct” Russian Cosmos satellite been operational? What was the purpose of this “presumably defunct” Russian satellite?

That it occurred over Russian territory adds to my level of curiosity.

Maybe I’ve read too much Clancy, but I’ll suspect that it’s a planned, live kill by Russia until proven otherwise.


39 posted on 02/11/2009 1:59:49 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Joiseydude

>>Accidently or intentionally?<<

Precisely!

Most people have no idea how much “space” there really is up there. The likelyhood of this accidentally happening is astronomically small.

No pun intended.

I don’t think Vince Foster committed suicide either...


40 posted on 02/11/2009 2:00:13 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in the 1930's.)
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