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To: marron

Speaking about Obama-voting friends.

The argument I received back in October was:

1. Its Bush and republicans that created all this mess
2. It was 8 years of disgrace
3. The WOLRD does not like us because of Bush
4. Give a black man a chance

It came from a more-less a-political people, and not Dem yellow dogs. They are fiscally conservative and we have little difference in how we raise our kids. Outside politics, we are very much compatible in the everyday life, which is additionally proved by different vacations spent together without braking apart.

After a while I stopped arguing because I don’t want to lose friends. My conclusion is that “enemy propaganda” works quite well, and in a liberal state like Maryland, its everywhere, one should seek alternatives consciously, otherwise you not going to stumble upon them.

Obama supplies me with lots of ammunition now, so I’ll get back to them eventually.


17 posted on 02/11/2009 12:01:03 PM PST by Tolik
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To: Tolik
It came from a more-less a-political people, and not Dem yellow dogs.

Same in my case, it was a fairly apolitical guy I always assumed was fairly conservative. His arguments were similar to the ones you listed. But come to think of it he moves in unionized circles, so his apparent conservative demeanor doesn't translate into political conservatism. And he believes all the Bush-Halliburton conspiracy stories, and doesn't believe any of the dirt on the Dems. Or, like most Dems, if you can prove some of the dirt, his reply is that they all do it. If you can prove that the Bush conspiracy stuff is false, he figures your facts are disinformation from the Bush crowd.

He knows the score; he reads factcheck.org, or whatever.

I have a close colleague who was Repub, but became a Dem after reading Obama's books. He was over the moon for the guy. But although Repub, he again was fairly apolitical, and has a literary bent, and moves in those circles in his private life. He again sees the Bush years as you listed.

I agree that "enemy propaganda" works quite well. In actual fact, Dem control of the news and entertainment media, and schools and universities across the board, is killing us. Its killing us.

18 posted on 02/11/2009 1:23:17 PM PST by marron
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