[mlo]

"They don't say that the Certification doesn't contain the information they need they say it requires "further verification." That goes directly to its reliability not its content."

Read the whole page. It clearly explains what the program is, and what the requirements are. There's no mystery about what they need to verify. They are verifying ancestry, not just Hawaiian birth. The "further verification" is the verification beyond your own birth, your ancestry.

"Spin on though you are amusing me with your convoluted concatenations."

The convolution is your own. That site is very clear about the program and its requirements. You guys are trying to twist anything you can into supporting an idea you've already decided to believe in. That is spin.

[Cyropaedia]

The problem is that there's really nothing additional listed on the Certificate of Live Birth that really helps them actually determine "ancestry". All of the necessary information is also listed on the Certification of Live Birth (parents and the race of the parents). The only additional information that a Certificate could help them would be the general location of a parent's birth. This could be simply a general area like a state or even foreign country. The Certificate itself doesn't list the grandparents, great-grandparents, any other relatives or even other siblings.

Even with the Certificate of Live Birth the Department still wants to see certified copies of your parents' CoLB's and even grandparents' CoLB's to independently verify where they were actually born.

That is what the extra work and charges involved with the Certification are about; to fully corroborate that you actually were born in Hawaii (for starters). The Certificate lists the name of the hospital, the address of the hospital, the name of the physician that performed the delivery, etc.