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To: SteveH
Are you now saying the UPI is unreliable ("not clear") when its article states that "Obama described his birth..."?

Do you think would UPI lie or cover up or confuse its readership in regards to reporting an alleged statement by the President of the United States?

No. I am saying the UPI article is written sloppily, so that it is not clear whether Obama himself claimed to be born in Queens hopsital, or whether the reporter inserted that on his own, beleiving it to be true (incorrectly).

The reason this interpretation is plausible is because the statement is not a direct quote, but a paraphrase of a statement on another subject, the hospital of birth being incidental to the topic at hand.

If you are asserting that a close Obama family member (O's half-sister) is wrong concerning such a fundamental fact of her half-brother's life

Yes. She was not yet alive when he was born, so she cannot know first hand where he was born. It is very plausible that she was mistaken. The evidence that she is mistaken is that every other quoted statement by Obama and other relatives indicates Kapiolani Medical center as his place of birth.

757 posted on 02/07/2009 12:48:43 PM PST by curiosity
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To: curiosity
If you are asserting that a close Obama family member (O's half-sister) is wrong concerning such a fundamental fact of her half-brother's life Yes. She was not yet alive when he was born, so she cannot know first hand where he was born. It is very plausible that she was mistaken. The evidence that she is mistaken is that every other quoted statement by Obama and other relatives indicates Kapiolani Medical center as his place of birth.

757 posted on February 07, 2009 3:48:43 PM by curiosity

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Curiosity: You say "every other quoted statement by Obama and other relatives indicate Kapioliani Medical center as his place of birth."

Could you please explain further by what you mean when you say above that "other relatives" say Obama was born in the Kapiolani center.

I ask the question above for this reason: As you may know, several relatives in Kenya seem to say that Obama was born in Kenya and not in Hawaii.

Also, there does not seem to be any Hawaii hospital record that a Stanley Ann Dunham/Obama was ever a patient in a Hawaii hospital on Aug. 4, 1961.

786 posted on 02/07/2009 1:51:08 PM PST by john mirse
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