Chief:”There was no need for Ann or Jr to be on the island after his birth to register the birth and at this point in time there is no evidence of their presence on the island. There was also no need for a document to be notarized stating the birth event just the statement of a person with knowledge of the event.”
Thanks for your comments. Regretfully, the possible connotations of this are that any Hawaiian long-form birth certificate on record in Hawaii (assuming there is one), would only lead to further investigations. But at least with that in hand, it would be easier to research the legitimacy of the document. If there is an attending physician or medical facility listed on the BC, it could be verified as accurate or dismissed.
There is nothing on a birth certificate that most normal people would be concerned to disclose. The fact that Obama is holding his so closely raises much speculation - if nothing else. It has certainly caused my mind to wander wildly about what damning evidence might be contained on that document!!
Another question I have considered is what information (if any) could the factcheck.org version of the BC be altered from the orignal on file. This question does assume that the factcheck.org document is accurate and a legitimate document issued by Hawaii (which is very much in question). Does Hawaii allow ammendments to BCs that would permit Obama, his mother, or grandparents to cause the long form and the abbreviated form to differ substantially? Could the fathers name differ? Obama Jr’s name? Any other vital information? It is an interesting question...
Yes the original document could have been placed under seal when Jr was adopted by Lolo and even he could not access it without a court order. When the original was sealed another document would have been produced reflecting the changes. I wonder whether further court action happened during the Obama Sr visit in 1971 which would generate yet another document so that two sealed documents are under court order? Lolo had to have adopted Jr prior to his return to Indonesia, there simply was no time for this to be done in Indonesia before Ann and Jr arrived. When Lolo returned to Indonesia he was sent into “exile” for a year so he would not contaminate others with any ideas he picked up while in the U.S. He arrived back in Indonesia about a week before Ann and Jr did, at a time when Indonesia was expelling foreigners and when no foreigner could attend the Indonesian schools.
As for the factcheck document pictures I have asked just which document experts Factcheck has in their employ that could state without a doubt that the document they photographed is real. Also it is curious that they didn’t take a full back page photo of the document, instead putting the focus on the seal and signature. One has to question why.