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To: mlo
I'm sorry, but your "whole point" seems to consist entirely of speculation.

Here's some additional info as to what kind of provisions they had back 50 some odd years ago. They several different birth certificates at the time :

"Exactly what kinds of birth records does Hawaii provide?

Generally, folks don't know that Hawaii law, even in 1961, provided for multiple kinds of birth records, most of which are not what people think of when they think of birth certificates. The following is a description of those, including certificates for people not born in Hawaii. Go figure!

1. In the State of Hawaii, back in 1961, there were three different birth certificates that were obtainable:

a. If the birth was attended by a physician or mid wife, the attending medical professional was required to certify to the Department of Health the facts of the birth date, location, parents’ identities and other information. (See Section 57-8 & 9 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961).

b. In 1961, if a person was born in Hawaii but not attended by a physician or mid wife, then, up to the first birthday of the child, an adult could, upon testimony, file a “Delayed Certificate”, which required endorsement on the Delayed Certificate of a summary statement of the evidence submitted in support of the acceptance for delayed filing, which evidence must be kept in a special permanent file. The statute provided that the probative value of the Delayed Certificate must be determined by the judicial or administrative body or official before whom the certificate is offered as evidence. (See Section 57-18, 19 & 20 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961).

c. If a child born in Hawaii, for whom no physician or mid wife filed a certificate of live birth, and for whom no Delayed Certificate was filed before the first birthday, then a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth could be issued upon testimony of an adult including the subject person) if the Lieutenant Governor was satisfied that a person was born in Hawaii, provided that the person had attained the age of one year. (See Section 57-40 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961)."

http://mijgreb.blogtownhall.com/

So it was possible to have an out of state birth registered through the testimony of the parent. They could say that there was neither a physician or midwife present and then submit a signed statement stating that the child was born "in Hawaii on such and such date and at such and such time".

1,435 posted on 02/09/2009 10:31:52 PM PST by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Cyropaedia; penelopesire; BulletBobCo; seekthetruth; Kevmo; gunnyg; television is just wrong; ...

Star Parker on Glenn Beck says “...but we haven’t seen his (Obama’s) BIRTH CERTIFICATE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHmXOQcQC1g&eurl=http://usatodayadforobamarecords.blogspot.com/

**Note: I had no audio on Firefox, but it played fine on IE


1,436 posted on 02/10/2009 1:18:13 AM PST by STARWISE ( They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter))
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To: Cyropaedia

“They could say that there was neither a physician or midwife present and then submit a signed statement stating that the child was born “in Hawaii on such and such date and at such and such time”

I don’t see how this would work under BOs situation. He does not have a Certificate of Hawaiin Birth, or a Delayed Certificate of Birth. He has a Certification of Live Birth, which would seem to indicate that he was in the first category, where his birth was witnessed by a physician or midwife. I don’t understand your point.


1,441 posted on 02/10/2009 7:02:07 AM PST by ga medic
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