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To: SmithL
...the mood among Democrats is: "If we won this election, why shouldn't we get some stuff?"

That would explain the union payoffs, the relief for the movie industry, the funding for ACORN...

...says Peter Ragone, a Democratic strategist from San Francisco... "And getting something done will carry the day. Anyone who's viewed as an obstructionist in this environment is going to pay a steep price - and the Republicans are really playing with fire by coming off as obstructionist."

Well, Peter, if that's the case, why don't you just pass the bill and shut up? The Dems have a majority in the House, the Senate, and hold the White House. If the Republicans are only hurting themselves here, why not pass the bill, take the credit, and let the Republicans suffer?

The reason is that he's lying. The Dems are doing everything they possibly can to hold a position of leadership without taking the responsibility for leading. All of the perks, none of the risk. It doesn't work that way.

16 posted on 02/04/2009 9:39:20 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill
Well said.

If the Dems keep pounding this “vote or with us or else” drum...it really could cause a backdraft.

They have votes...just do it and don't try to get any Repubs on board. Take the heat when it fails or the glory when it succeeds (not likely).

The media coverage about how there “WASN'T ONE REPUB VOTE IN THE HOUSE” is amusing. It wasn't needed. Why not report it as...”Dems Trounce Pubs And Save The Country With Stimulus”.? (Feel free to call me a cynic.)

18 posted on 02/04/2009 9:55:03 PM PST by berdie (Philosophies of the school room in one generation will reflect the government philosophy of the next)
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To: Billthedrill

...says Peter Ragone, a Democratic strategist from San Francisco... “And getting something done will carry the day. Anyone who’s viewed as an obstructionist in this environment is going to pay a steep price - and the Republicans are really playing with fire by coming off as obstructionist.”

The Dems have seen the poll numbers and they know they are losing the debate. What the Dems don’t understand is that being obstuctionist about a PORK LADEN SPENDING BILL is a GOOD THING for the COUNTRY! Hence the polls showing the public losing support for the bill.

The Dems are so out of touch with the majority of Americans that they think it is obstructionist because it hurts their special interest groups. Obama said if you put lipstick on a PIG, it is still a PIG. This PORK SPENDING BILL is a PIG and no amount of lipstick will save it. If Obama and the Dems keep pushing it, Obama’s approval will be under 50% and the Congressional Dems will be in single digits by the end of the month.


20 posted on 02/04/2009 10:08:06 PM PST by SDShack
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