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To: ClearCase_guy

I have said a number of times, I find it very troubling how the MSM and Hussein played this Lincoln thing up. Lincoln trampled the Constitution. If you did not agree with his decision to invade the southern states, you were imprisoned, if you were a newspaper, it was shut down or destroyed. He ignored the Supreme Court when they told him something he disagreed with. He destroyed the intent of the original union.


20 posted on 02/04/2009 7:01:06 PM PST by coon2000
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To: coon2000

Most people aren’t educated about the subject. To them, Lincoln is always the Great Emancipator (never mind that the Emancipation Proclamation only applied to territories not under US control).


25 posted on 02/04/2009 7:04:25 PM PST by djsherin (The federal government:: Because someone has to f*** things up!)
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To: coon2000

I agree, and he basically hosed Federalism and bequeathed to us a national goobermint. Thanks, “Honest” but not “Constitutional” Abe!


45 posted on 02/04/2009 7:23:03 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: coon2000

...Yer right. “Lincoln trampled the Constitution” and the Republic. He started this shit...

...Time for the states to put an end to it...


59 posted on 02/04/2009 8:02:13 PM PST by gargoyle (...Don't bring shotguns to UFO sightings, let the aliens land, they might be here to pick me up...)
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To: coon2000
Lincoln trampled the Constitution. If you did not agree with his decision to invade the southern states, you were imprisoned, if you were a newspaper, it was shut down or destroyed.

I have come to believe that the southern states did have the right to secede, constitutionally. The question of slavery throws a monkey wrench into things for me, though. Theoretically, you could justify invading the South in order to enforce constitutional rights for blacks, except that even Lincoln admitted he didn't do it for that reason.

However, if I recall correctly, the Constitution does give the President the power to suspend habeus corpus in time of war, so any imprisonment he did in that period would actually have been constitutional.
78 posted on 02/04/2009 10:54:33 PM PST by fr_freak
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