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To: P-Marlowe
BS. Just explain how that can be done without overturning Roe v. Wade..... Crickets

I love how rude people like you are over the Internet, in a way you would never be to someone's face, to pump up yout self-esteem or something.

If you have no clue that the key to this is sending the decision about abortion back to the states, you're just another dilettante who shouts "Pro-Life!" but has never volunteered, never given money, never read the history of the movement in this country.

Pro-Life activists--REAL ones, not keyboard conservatives--are doing just what I described at the state level, something so basic you'd know it if you followed the individual initiatives.

Here's something nice and simple even you might be able to handle:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-04-16-abortion-states_x.htm

You go play with the crickets, and while you're there, educate your smug self.

90 posted on 02/04/2009 8:28:07 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life Capitalist American Atheist and Free-Speech Junkie)
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To: Darkwolf377; P-Marlowe
Dear Darkwolf377,

Great article.

You do realize, of course, that the article is mostly discussing what would happen to abortion law in the several states if Roe were overturned.

Overturning Roe is only the beginning.

But without it, we are reduced to limiting abortion around the edges, at the fringes. We're talking about being able to act in a way that reduces abortions nationally by perhaps 20% - 25%.

And that's good stuff.

But without overturning Roe, the number of abortions in the United States will continue at the 1+ million per year, and unborn children will not be protected in law.

I'll reiterate - to “send abortion back to the states (at least in a substantive way}” is to “overturn Roe.”

P-Marlowe is right - if we abandon the fight to ultimately overturn Roe, by whatever legal means, the pro-life movement is dead.


sitetest

92 posted on 02/04/2009 9:31:30 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Darkwolf377; sitetest; xzins
If you have no clue that the key to this is sending the decision about abortion back to the states, you're just another dilettante who shouts "Pro-Life!" but has never volunteered, never given money, never read the history of the movement in this country.

I think I know a little more about how the law works that you do. Michael Steele has said that he does not want to see Roe v. Wade overturned, but that he wants the court to follow "stare decisis". For those of you in Rio Linda that means that if any case comes up to the Supreme Court that has the potential of overturning Roe v. Wade, then Michael Steele would rather see the pro-life law declared unconstitutional than to have the court declare that Roe v. Wade should be overturned.

The position of Michael Steele is as radically pro-abortion as that of the ACLU. Neither Michael Steele or the ACLU want the court to overturn Roe v. Wade. Until Roe v. Wade is overturned (something that Michael Steele opposes) then the pro-life movement is going to go nowhere. We may be able to nibble at the edges, but we will not be able to make abortion a crime until Roe is overturned.

So go ahead and pretend that Michael Steele is a great proponent of the pro-life position. But the fact is that by suggesting that he wants the Supreme Court to follow "stare decisis" he obviously wants to keep the roadblocks up against the pro-life movement and to keep abortion safe and legal.

101 posted on 02/04/2009 4:59:31 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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