Does Michael Steele Pass Muster With Conservatives?

Human Events ^ | 2/4/2009 | Martha Zoller

[lentulusgracchus]

....His positions on gun control and homosexual marriage....

[Quoting article]

He’s encouraged by the success groups in California cobbling together social conservatives, religious Latinos and Blacks on Proposition 8 in November. In 2008, the value of preaching a socially conservative agenda in minority communities increased dramatically. Prop 8 represents the future of the morality movement in America, and Steele sees it as both a winning movement and a way to mend fences with social conservatives who think he’s not one of them.

Further to your post, this article shows that Steele is in fact a social conservative and against the homosexual lobby's attack on marriage and marriage's normative power.

familyop, your crusty act cuts no ice with me, either. You want to bash the guy, take responsibility for it. You're stalking and spamming Steele threads. I have spoken.

[newfreep]

Definitely has the right take on illegal immigration.

Steele is a RINO on imigration. Yes, he supports the fence but that is followed by his support of AMNESTY for the 30-40 million ILLEGAL socialists from mexico.

Amnesty would guarantee a permanent majority for the 'rat-commies. Forever.

Only a socialist supports amnesty.
Steele supports amnesty.
Steele, at best, is a RINO ala jorge & juan.

Thanks, but no thanks!

[FreedomPoster]

>>a strategy must be developed to penetrate the red states and that implies selling something that the voters want to buy

Real fiscal conservatism of the sort the Republican Party pretty much abandoned 2001-2008 would be a great start.

[familyop]

"What positions? I see a typical NRA talking point in his reply on gun control."

["his reply on gun control"]
"Society should draw lines. What do you need an assault weapon for, if you're going hunting? That's overkill. But I don't think that means you go to a total ban for those who want to use gun for skeet shooting or hunting or things like that"

[Jimmy Valentine]

In Maryland, we liked him a lot as Lt. Governor.

He would have been a great Senator, but the DemocRATS/Crooks elected the bum Cardin instead.

Side note: The so very tolerant and inclusive DemocRATS were the ones who threw Oreo cookies at him during the campaign.

[familyop]

"familyop, your crusty act cuts no ice with me, either. You want to bash the guy, take responsibility for it. You're stalking and spamming Steele threads. I have spoken."

...and spoken pretty much the way Ellie Smeal, Linda Elrod and others of their kind did to me with false accusations. ;-) I posted quotations and facts. You've replied so far with accusations based on your own rhetoric. There's been no "stalking" (serious accusation and libel on your part) and no "spamming."

[Darkwolf377]

I did not write any rhetoric on Steele regarding abortion. Next!

I didn't say you did.

Do you want to do the "message board wiseacre" thing, or do you want to have a discussion? Because I don't think this is an issue that's there for your enjoyment to one-up people.

You posted a specific exchange Steele made. You obviously are trying to make a point.

Ball's in your court--do you want to help all of us get to the bottom of Steele's actual position, or just goof around on a message board with little "gotcha!" quotes?

[Darkwolf377]

Isn’t that what Steele is saying here?

[Darkwolf377]

Having looked at your other responses on this thread, I think I have my answer. No need to reply further, thanks.

[RnMomof7]

I too have always had a gut feeling hat this was a good man.. lets give him a chance

[bvw]

I hope so -- in Steele's case I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and even support. But I do remember listening as he hosted for Bill Bennett's morning talker, that I wish he wasn't (1) so go-alongish and (2) that he was more firmly grounded in the Founder's ideals.

The Founders would never have allowed a HUD, an Education Department, the Federal Drug Laws, and so on and on. The Founder's set up a limited Federal Government -- none of these post-Wilson, post-FDR, post-LBJ programs without a vigorous national discussion leading up to a Constitutional Amendment. I have not heard Steele address this fairly. Nor has he fairly addressed the natural born issue, nor properly noted the absolute corruption, criminality, venality and treason of nearly all of Obama's political cohort.

[familyop]

"You posted a specific exchange Steele made. You obviously are trying to make a point."

...no posting of Steele's words allowed? Steele made those points, and I do object to them.

Over the past couple of years, dissent from Republican members in regards to the Party movement further to the left has too often been answered with baseless rhetoric, anecdotes, insults and false accusations (e.g., the Giuliani flamefests). I recently left the Party, in part, because of that and was essentially told by the Party, as so many others have been told, "good riddance."

By your comments, it appears that you want to see some opinions from me. Alright. Here they are.

If you would rather compete for the votes of aging Hillary fans on their way to the nursing homes, then that's your prerogative. But stifling conservative dissent from facts with waves of rhetoric, insults and implied threats will bring further political consequences.

We've had it with

* Anti-family politicians (so-called "affirmative action" included).

* Anti-Second-Amendment politicians.

* Anti-defense politicians (including CFR members).

* Anti-American politicians (supporting anti-American, anti-defense business practices in favor of antagonistic, communist nations).

* A two-party system becoming effectively a one-party system that is more European in nature than American.

Supporting such politicians and using uncivilized arguments for them may temporarily get more funding for your Party, but it will also deprive your Party of needed votes for a very long time.

My positions are state quite well behind the following link, even though I do not own the site.

http://falconparty.com/

[Darkwolf377]

...no posting of Steele's words allowed?

When did I say that?

You're obviously more interested in word games than in a serious discussion, and playing the victim instead of being clear, is a waste of everyone's time. Have a good day.

[LibLieSlayer]

He** no... no more so than olympia snowe or susan collins or christy whitman could.

LLS

[nmh]

He's another black RHINO.

The GOP is the “STUPID PARTY”.

He likes AFFIRMATIVE ACTION and GUN CONTROL.

He's the new J.C. Watts or Colin Powell.

He was selected not for his CONSERVATIVE IDEOLOGY by rather the COLOR OF HIS SKIN.

[nmh]

Isn't it a pity?

If olympia snowe were black we could have made her head of the impotent RNC. That would be a double bonus pointer -
BLACK and FEMALE!!!!

[LibLieSlayer]

steele is a socialist and is also a racist... for affirmative action and reparations are inherently racist agendas... and steele embraces both so tightly that he has dented them.

LLS

[nmh]

Isn't it a pity?

If olympia snowe were black we could have made her head of the impotent RNC. That would be a double bonus pointer -
BLACK and FEMALE!!!!

On second thought do we have a part BLACK and part HISPANIC WOMAN that we could leverage on RACE AND ETHNICITY? That would really make the STUPID GOP gush with joy. That's how STUPID the GOP has become. They are just as surfacy and RACIST as Demoncrats.

[LibLieSlayer]

We fight the enemies of liberty wherever they raise their heads... get used to it... we will point out every knife steele sticks into the backs of Conservatives. FR is a CONSERVATIVE SITE... not exclusive to repubic bots and their elitist country club army!

LLS

[Darkwolf377]

their elitist country club army!

That needs to be kept in mind. The Rockefeller Republicans need to be kept in the grave.