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To: jackmercer
Take taxpayer money with strings attached or go chapter 7 and out of existence. Does that include the Banks that were locked in a room and forced to take the original bailout money when they did not want it?

First, I am against bailouts period but this is s slippery slope we do not want to go down. What we have here is the 2nd stage of the commies in charge nationalizing business. The first stage was the bailout.

Soon they will want to cap the salaries of private company execs because the company is in a particular tax bracket or simply because the government demands it, because, after all, government allows a business to exist as a corporation.

This salary BS is a Red Herring to keep us sheep occupied while they stick it in our a$$e$.

Don't fall for it. The Federal Government IS the problem, not the solution.

68 posted on 02/03/2009 10:04:44 PM PST by suijuris
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To: suijuris

“First, I am against bailouts period but this is a slippery slope we do not want to go down. What we have here is the 2nd stage of the commies in charge nationalizing business. The first stage was the bailout.”

I too am against the bailouts, no doubt. But the bailouts are now a reality and both parties are equally liable for passing them.

The TARP 1 was passed with no conditions under Bush and that is insanity. That would be like if you own a small business and come tax time in April, you write a check for $50,000 of your own money and drive to New York and hand it to a Wall Street exec and say “here, do with this as you please, no questions asked”. That is esentially what happened with the first bailout.

The point of the thread now is TARP 2, which will hopefully be a bailout with conditions. This would be like taking that same $50,000 check to Wall Street, sitting down with them and saying “listen, this is a loan and here are my conditions and this is what I expect in return for the loan, sign here if you agree. If not, see you at the auction of your assets”. You would have EVERY right to assert such conditions since you are the creditor of their debt.

Saying that this is a slippery slope is complete unfounded paranoia without a reference to historical precedents. The government, with OUR MONEY, is loaning or investing in Wall Street and as such has every legal right to impose any restrictions at their (or OUR) discretion.

I say it is paranoia because if they try to impose restrictions like this to wholly private companies, you would first see the courts laugh the government out of the courthouses and second, you would see a mass uprising on against members of Congress in the next election cycle.

Just review the court dockets of the 1930s as precedent for this. Contrary to popular belief, not much of FDR’s new deal survived the 1930s after the government was sued. Only a few things survived the courts like SS, unemployment insurance, Glass-Steagall, etc. Most of it was tossed out as unconstitutional. And this would be such a case.


82 posted on 02/04/2009 11:48:11 AM PST by jackmercer
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