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FDA approves first human embryonic stem cell safety trial (3 days after Pres. Bush left)
Scientific American ^ | 1-23-09 | Jordan Lite

Posted on 02/02/2009 7:07:22 PM PST by STARWISE

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To: STARWISE

Thank you for this article.. I was looking for the link yesterday .. and I’m now glad to have it... thanks


181 posted on 02/03/2009 11:14:07 AM PST by gwilhelm56 (MULLAH HUSSEIN - which part of "Congress shall make no Law" - do you NOT UNDERSTAND??)
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To: sarah p

I guess we should take to the streets, singing :

O-bama, Heybama, bamabama-Hobama Heybama Hobama!

with apologies to Andrew Lloyd Weber


182 posted on 02/03/2009 11:16:35 AM PST by gwilhelm56 (MULLAH HUSSEIN - which part of "Congress shall make no Law" - do you NOT UNDERSTAND??)
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To: ican'tbelieveit

Question: would the FDA have been “ready” and made this decision and announcement on Jan. 23, 2008 ???

The term: “strains credulity” applies.

Obviously, the FDA has been researching this for years, but the bottom line is the LEADERSHIP AND GUIDANCE AT 1600 Pennsylvania.

Is it credible to believe there was NO collaboration with the incoming leftist admin on this ?


183 posted on 02/03/2009 11:19:50 AM PST by STARWISE ( They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter))
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To: gwilhelm56

I would much rather be singing “Na na na na hey hey hey good bye” to Obama.


184 posted on 02/03/2009 11:20:23 AM PST by sarah p
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To: sarah p

**“Na na na na hey hey hey good bye” **

the scum did that to President Bush, shows NO CLASS...

which I guess is ok, as NOBAMA has none, either!


185 posted on 02/03/2009 11:25:15 AM PST by gwilhelm56 (MULLAH HUSSEIN - which part of "Congress shall make no Law" - do you NOT UNDERSTAND??)
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To: gwilhelm56

;)


186 posted on 02/03/2009 11:28:55 AM PST by STARWISE ( They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter))
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To: sarah p
It is naive to think that these cells are just going to be taken from these freezers and injected into some patient for some miracle cure.

Not only naive, but stupid.

187 posted on 02/03/2009 11:33:41 AM PST by Amelia
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To: SumProVita
The babykillers were set loose legally when Roe v. Wade became the law of the land--still, people who were pro-death for the most part did not share their beliefs in the light of day--now the community organizer/junior senator from Illinois/first black president of the United States has embraced them and called them out of the woodwork and dark rooms where they've been hidden, and made promises to them to not only continue the killings, but to ENHANCE them by taking away all rule and laws and regulations! =:-O

HolyO has emboldened these child-killers like no one else in history--not even Hitler's Final Solution killed as many innocents as Roe v. Wade! :*(

And HolyO wants to EXPAND those death sentences!!! Unbelievable!! >:-[

HolyO will be held accountable to God someday-the same loving God who holds each and every one of those murdered unborn children and lets them touch His face--only He will not be so benevolent at that time!!

God is in control. I have to repeat this often since Jan. 20th, 2009--or else the rage I feel at HolyO's condemnation to death of millions of unborn babies will overwhelm me! :*(
188 posted on 02/03/2009 11:33:59 AM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: a fool in paradise

Proof positive that this man is NOT a Christian (’we know that we know that we know’) despite his public protestations and the MSM’s redundant repetition that he is...

God is in control.
God is in control.

And HolyO will answer to Him someday.


189 posted on 02/03/2009 11:36:57 AM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: a fool in paradise

Especially ugly was his use of the term ‘previable fetuses’ when he opposed the Botched Abortion bill!!!!!!!!


190 posted on 02/03/2009 11:37:41 AM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: ga medic
The problem with that 'pluripotent' cell is that it is a human embryo that could be a scientist, or physician, or mathematician, or musician, or philanthropist, or just a regular old good guy........

Ending a human life for the "further off" hope that it might do some good some day, when there is all kinds of potential and success without ending that life MAKES NO SENSE.

191 posted on 02/03/2009 11:38:28 AM PST by ohioWfan (Thank you PRESIDENT BUSH!!!)
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To: ohioWfan
We are catapulting headlong down the proverbial slippery slope, Amelia.

There are definitely a number of issues that need to be discussed from a moral and ethical standpoint.

192 posted on 02/03/2009 11:44:11 AM PST by Amelia
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To: STARWISE
So you actually believe this .. that it was just a coincidence that the FDA suddenly proclaimed this total departure from Pres. Bush's standards .......... 3 days after the Jan. 20th inauguration ?

How is it a departure from Pres. Bush's standards?

Bush restricted federal funding of embryonic stem cell research.

Apparently Geron proceeded with the research without using federal funding.

193 posted on 02/03/2009 11:45:52 AM PST by Amelia
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To: Amelia

Federal regulators have green-lighted the first trial of an embryonic stem-cell treatment in humans.

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Question: Would Pres. Bush’s FDA have done this ?


194 posted on 02/03/2009 11:48:16 AM PST by STARWISE ( They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter))
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To: pillut48

Trust me in that I totally understand your frustration with the expansion of such evil. However, God IS in control and I think He might just be allowing the weeds to grow so that people’s eyes will be opened to what is REALLY going on....and so that they may see that there are consequences to their choices.


195 posted on 02/03/2009 11:51:36 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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To: ohioWfan

“The problem with that ‘pluripotent’ cell is that it is a human embryo that could be a scientist, or physician, or mathematician, or musician, or philanthropist, or just a regular old good guy........”

I agree. I do not believe that innocent life should be destroyed to create cures for others.

It is a tough argument to make, given that IVF treatment is so common, and that it results in the destruction of thousands of embryos each day. Many protest vigorously the use of these embryos for the creation of stem cells that may provide cures. However, when it comes to the huge number of embryos produced, stored and discarded in the fertility industry they are silent. My belief is that the destruction of embryos is wrong in either circumstance.


196 posted on 02/03/2009 11:52:59 AM PST by ga medic
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To: STARWISE

I think it would have been very difficult for the Bush FDA to prevent this trial on the basis that it uses ESCs. GWB did not make it illegal to create and use ESCs, he only limited what the federal government would finance. I would think that if GWB wanted to prevent the use of embryos to create stem cell lines, he would have made it illegal. Once he has allowed the destruction of the embryo, what benefit is there to preventing the treatment derived from it?


197 posted on 02/03/2009 12:03:54 PM PST by ga medic
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To: Gondring
Do you likewise cheer for more people to get paralyzed, you wonderfully compassionate slug?
Yep. I hope everyone gets paralyzed. We all ride around in motorized wheelchairs. /sarc
Let me clarify, I hope embryonic stem cell research, which harvests massive amounts of cells from the unborn, gets nowhere. Pretty enough picture for you abortion-loving slime?
198 posted on 02/03/2009 12:11:58 PM PST by benjibrowder (Looking forward to kicking Obama out of office in 2012.)
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To: ga medic; Amelia
I fully agree, ga medic. What is being done to these embryos is morally reprehensible.

My problem is with the argument that, since we are doing one thing morally wrong, that it is not a problem to compound it with something else morally wrong.

The "snowflake babies" pictured with President Bush above prove that these are human beings, and not just "tissue" being discarded.

Let's work to change what is wrong. Not pile more wrong on top of it.

199 posted on 02/03/2009 12:28:24 PM PST by ohioWfan (Thank you PRESIDENT BUSH!!!)
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To: STARWISE
God help us. We were blessed with a staunch protector of innocent human life ...

I Miss our President. ;(

200 posted on 02/03/2009 12:30:56 PM PST by Kitty Mittens (To God Be All Excellent Praise!!)
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