State Dept. Accepted a Letter of No Record for quite a long time actually
Posted on 01/30/2009 10:26:26 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
You said — “Until that time, he’s a Kenyan-born Indonesian citizen and an illegitimate president.”
And just to think, I was always taught that allegations and assertions had to be proven in a court of law, and properly adjudicated before a pronouncement of “Guilty”...
I see our system of justice has undergone a profound change in the burden of proof for guilty — now no court is required and all that is necessary is for someone to say, “I don’t believe it”... and “Guilty” the person becomes, automatically... :-)
You said — “You appear to be siding with the Democrat position?”
The truth of a matter never takes a political side. It’s simply truth. Now, many times the truth is very “inconvenient” to one political side or the other — that’s very true.
It would have been so much nicer and easier to have had clear evidence, presented in a court of law and a judgement rendered on it, a long time prior to the election — against Obama in this matter. But, that’s not the truth of the matter.
And so, it’s very inconvenient to all those who want to be rid of Obama. The difference between some here, compared to the greater majority of conservatives, is that although all (of those conservatives) don’t want Obama, the one smaller group seems unable to recognize *reality* and recognize the *truth* of the matter, as it stands today....
That doesn’t make one a Democrat supporter, to support the truth of the matter.
You said — “Game. Set. Match.”
Ummmm..., how come that only works on a “thread” on Free Republic, among those of the Obama Derangement Syndrome, and not in *real life*....
Of course, *that* is the definition of Obama Derangement Syndrome, it only “works” in the minds of some people..., and not in real life...
You said — “does obsessive compulsive disorder ring a bell?”
Yeah..., it does! That goes “hand-in-hand” with Obama Derangement Syndrome, one being the general malady and the other being the specific malady...
Just letting you know that your comments are as useful as icky stuff on the street, I don’t read them and haven’t for weeks. I don’t like scraping crap off my shoes in real life or on FR.
BS. The State Department website only says that some short forms may not be acceptable.
Acceptable primary evidence of U.S. Citizenship is a certified birth certificate that has a registrar's raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal, registrar’s signature, and the date the certificate was filed with the registrar's office, which must be within 1 year of birth. All this information is contained on the short form BC which is all most states give out these days and is sufficient proof to get a passport as I can personally attest to.
You said — “Just letting you know that your comments are as useful as icky stuff on the street, I don’t read them and haven’t for weeks. I don’t like scraping crap off my shoes in real life or on FR.”
It’s always amazing for some people who say that they don’t read my comments, that they — somehow — manage to reply to something that they don’t read... LOL...
[ How does one do that, look out of the side of your eye and use your peripheral vision?? ... :-) ... ]
NJ bump!!!
Obama ping!!!
State Dept. Accepted a Letter of No Record for quite a long time actually
Thanks, Calpernia
Ping
You said it...no self-respecting constitutionalist would use a smear term like “birthers” or “truthers.” Polarik did a good job identifying the motives of the trolls on this thread.
Great post Polarik. Trolling is as trolling does.
BTW, the obots love making snide little comments about you but I have yet to see any of them disprove your work.
I think you’ve gotten a pretty good grasp of who the trolls and obfuscators are on these threads. If you’ll read this one to the finish you’ll see how one of Polarik’s points is made—the trolls took over the thread and at the end a strict constitutionalist can hardly be found. That’s also been my observation for a long time. Which is why none of the usual suspects will get me involved in a jousting match ever again. The best advice I can give you is: leave ‘em alone—they are up to no good!
And then they show up in the very next post. Stalking specific members?
Could be a whole different story if the Electoral College certification is reversed in the courts.
On the other hand, if the documents are so obvious against Obama, it might pass in The House.
Heck, he doesn't even have to be right for the right reasons.
Piecemeal, his work can be criticised. But the entirety of it?
I view the eligibility question this way:
1) Barry admits (claims!) his father is Kenyan. Yet to be disproved.
2) Thus, Barry is not a Natural born citizen.
You said — “Could be a whole different story if the Electoral College certification is reversed in the courts.”
While that is a very questionable result (as you put it above), in that I don’t see the legal basis for it — it’s not really a relevant discussion — in terms of Obama’s removal from office, because there is only one way that the Constitution has for removal of a President, and that’s Impeachment, first, and then Conviction, second. Short of that, no matter what else a court does — one can’t get around that.
So, I’ll leave the discussion of what the legal basis for reversing the Electoral College vote, that has been certified by the Congress, as an issue that doesn’t have to be answered.
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That’s one of the big problems I see with Obama Derangement Syndrome, because it produces all sorts of discussion that end up in “tracks” like from — “What if a comet hits the White House while Obama is there?” to “We might be able to remove Obama from office if Putin can launch a nuclear bomb and wipe out Washington DC before they can get him in a shelter.” To those who would protest that it couldn’t be done, of course the Obama Deranged people would respond that one really doesn’t know the capability of the Russians and Putin, in that he can lob a nuclear missile over on the White House before they can react by parking a Russian sub right out in the ocean.”
And that will open up a whole new line of “reasoning” of how we an get rid of Obama... LOL... (ask Putin to help us...)
While it makes for interesting dialog and good for “passing the time of day” — all of it accomplishes *nothing* in getting rid of Obama.
However, we might pass some of this “dialog” on to Hollywood for their next movie...
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And thus, that’s why I put more faith in a move to enact states laws for vetting their candidates in their states, rather than a lot of the deranged talk...
Thank goodness two states, Oklahoma and Arizona have a bit of practical sense in this area.
Yeah, and when they start using terms like “birthers” and “Obama Derangement Syndrome,” it’s pretty obvious what’s going on.
Sickem,guys. Oh, forgot the “LOL!”
I checked the specific Hawaiian requirements, but the link is currently broken, so I can't tell you if the HI short form is on the list of acceptable documents. I would suspect it is NOT, since it does not contain the required signatures as stated above. Proving my point.
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