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To: TXnMA; DallasMike

Sure.

FWIW, I also like Gerald Schroder’s explanation for the discrepancy between Scripture and observations.

The Age of the Universe
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1576941/posts

That might be something folks like Dallas Mike could bounce off non-believers who are scientists and would like something to chew on, if they’re willing to read something like that.

He’s right, BTW, that unbelieving scientists will never be convinced about changing their opinion abut the age of the universe BEFORE they become believers. I’d hazard a guess what not even likely after. That would only happen IF God convicted them of it.

A scientist is not going to become a believer based on being convinced that his view on the age of the earth is wrong, if he were able to be convinced of that in the first place.

Our salvation is based on what we do concerning Christ. Nobody has perfect doctrine and beliefs when they get saved and it often takes time to correct ones that are in error.

Considering the moral, mental, psychological, social, etc, baggage that most people come with, I’d say correcting one’s opinion about the age of the universe is rather low on the list of things to straighten out.

Mind you, I understand where fellow believers are coming from on the inerrancy of Scripture and their concern about believing and teaching error and I share those concerns as well. However, with all I have to deal with on a daily basis, worrying about how old the earth is, is not high on my priority list.


414 posted on 02/04/2009 3:06:33 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; TXnMA; betty boop; Alamo-Girl
[ However, with all I have to deal with on a daily basis, worrying about how old the earth is, is not high on my priority list. ]

Exactly.. People blithly mentioning millions of years could easily be wrong by millions or even billions.. Or even wrong in an attempt to manufacture a tale by punching it back to cartoon limits of unprovable time.. Like; humans were (ultimately) bred in a muddy puddle(as a Virus) in a distant past until they "evolved".. You know like God is a mental construct and their tale/yarn/story is not a cartoon..

I would happier if liberals(scientists) could re-construct Joseph McCarthy's history and work correctly.. which is a mere 50 years ago.. or so.. He was indeed (as Ann COulter says) an American HERO.. Wonder how many "scientists" even know Joe McCathys evolution contribution correctly?..

421 posted on 02/04/2009 4:00:55 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: metmom
Thank you so very much for sharing your insights, dear sister in Christ!

Mind you, I understand where fellow believers are coming from on the inerrancy of Scripture and their concern about believing and teaching error and I share those concerns as well. However, with all I have to deal with on a daily basis, worrying about how old the earth is, is not high on my priority list.

Indeed.

Truly, there is only ONE Great Commandment.

Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. – Matthew 22:37-38

To God be the glory!

433 posted on 02/04/2009 9:31:29 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: metmom
Mind you, I understand where fellow believers are coming from on the inerrancy of Scripture and their concern about believing and teaching error and I share those concerns as well. However, with all I have to deal with on a daily basis, worrying about how old the earth is, is not high on my priority list.

I fully agree with you, metmom. In my life away from work, YEC versus OEC never comes up as an issue.

I know this doesn't surprise you because you're a strong Christian, but I'm still amazed at how many people want you to pray for them. Restaurant servers, people in hospital and nursing homes, people waiting in doctors' offices, even cashiers. When we see someone who looks troubled and offer to pray for them, they never turn us down. We pray for God to use us as witnesses, and he answers that prayer in great abundance.

On the other hand, my work life is quite different. All of my workers are very highly educated scientifically and are intellectually curious. I work with a few Christians, but not many.

Even though my co-workers know that I'm not a YEC Christian, the topic still comes up because they read news stories about teaching YEC in school (it's a hot topic in Texas) and they always point it out to me. the few who are the ardent atheists love to bring up the topic because they know how much YEC hurts the cause of Christ.

YEC is not something that I have to deal with on a daily basis at work, but it pops up at least every couple of weeks.

The extent to which YEC is an issue depends upon the type of people that you're around. I happen to work in a field where people are likely to talk about the issue and I've seen YEC become a stumbling block to becoming a Christian.

442 posted on 02/05/2009 6:54:59 AM PST by DallasMike
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