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To: GodGunsGuts

A list of lies that god wold have had to provide if YEC was

.True.

1. The calculated speed of light is wrong. Light would have to travel at 1.0 x 10 to the 9th power faster than is calculated and observed to provide the images of the stars that we see each night.

Dinosaur bones are a lie. I own some trilobyte fossils, by the way. The number of fossils in our posession is in the 10s of millions, mostly fairly simplistic animals (the University of Missouri in 1968 had 2 million. Their collections has expanded dramaticfally since then.) If you go to some quarries whose rock is sedimentary, you can see thousands of fossils on a single boulder. If you break open the boulder, you will see another several thousands. They are not rare, by any stretch of the imagination. Is the Tyrranosaurus Rex a figment of God’s imagination? How about a pterosaur?

Decay rates of radio isotopes are a big joke played on us. And about 6,000 years ago decay rates were 1.0 X 10 to the 12th power faster. ( Don’t hit me on the math here, just an illustration..)

The red shift that is quite obvious when we look at galaxies outside our own is fake or is due to some reason other than receding galaxies. And that red shift is quite obvious. With a homemade spectrograph you could probably pick it up (amateur astronomers are exceptionally clever. You wouldn’t believe some of the handbuilt equipment that we use.)

(Our local group of galaxies show less recession from each other due to the gravitational attraction to each other. Our local group is also converging on a common point called “The Great Attractor”.)

The radio spectrum (think in terms of 400 MHz band) also runs at a speed much faster than light. We see many millions of light years in the radio spectrum. And we see in detail.

Xrays travel at a speed that are magnitudes greater than the speed of light.

In order to “prove” YEC, we have to dispense with all of these nasty factoids. In fact, we have to dispense with most of our current understanding of physics, chemistry and biology in order to make the data fit.

So...... if we do that, our conversation ends because our computers can’t work. They are based on our current physics and if we reject physics, this conversation that we are having is obviously another lie. It never happened.

(Note to Jesus and our Father. These points ar for illustration only. We know that You and Your Father never lie. Ever. Period, no exceptions.)


355 posted on 02/03/2009 7:43:43 AM PST by texmexis best (uency)
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To: texmexis best

==1. The calculated speed of light is wrong. Light would have to travel at 1.0 x 10 to the 9th power faster than is calculated and observed to provide the images of the stars that we see each night.

You obviously are not acqainted with creationist cosmology, otherwise you wouldn’t be using such outdated arguments. And speaking of cosmology, the modern Big Bang theory has a light problem of its own:

In the big bang model, the universe begins in an infinitely small state called a singularity, which then rapidly expands. According to the big bang model, when the universe is still very small, it would develop different temperatures in different locations (Figure 1). Let’s suppose that point A is hot and point B is cold. Today, the universe has expanded (Figure 2), and points A and B are now widely separated.

However, the universe has an extremely uniform temperature at great distance— beyond the farthest known galaxies. In other words, points A and B have almost exactly the same temperature today. We know this because we see electromagnetic radiation coming from all directions in space in the form of microwaves. This is called the “cosmic microwave background” (CMB). The frequencies of radiation have a characteristic temperature of 2.7 K (-455°F) and are extremely uniform in all directions. The temperature deviates by only one part in 105.

The problem is this: How did points A and B come to be the same temperature? They can do this only by exchanging energy. This happens in many systems: consider an ice cube placed in hot coffee. The ice heats up and the coffee cools down by exchanging energy. Likewise, point A can give energy to point B in the form of electromagnetic radiation (light), which is the fastest way to transfer energy since nothing can travel faster than light. However, using the big bang supporters’ own assumptions, including uniformitarianism and naturalism, there has not been enough time in 14 billion years to get light from A to B; they are too far apart. This is a light travel-time problem—and a very serious one. After all, A and B have almost exactly the same temperature today, and so must have exchanged light multiple times.

Big bang supporters have proposed a number of conjectures which attempt to solve the big bang’s light travel-time problem. One of the most popular is called “inflation.” In “inflationary” models, the universe has two expansion rates: a normal rate and a fast inflation rate. The universe begins with the normal rate, which is actually quite rapid, but is slow by comparison to the next phase. Then it briefly enters the inflation phase, where the universe expands much more rapidly. At a later time, the universe goes back to the normal rate. This all happens early on, long before stars and galaxies form.

The inflation model allows points A and B to exchange energy (during the first normal expansion) and to then be pushed apart during the inflation phase to the enormous distances at which they are located today. But the inflation model amounts to nothing more than storytelling with no supporting evidence at all. It is merely speculation designed to align the big bang to conflicting observations. Moreover, inflation adds an additional set of problems and difficulties to the big bang model, such as the cause of such inflation and a graceful way to turn it off. An increasing number of secular astrophysicists are rejecting inflation for these reasons and others. Clearly, the horizon problem remains a serious light travel-time problem for the big bang.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab/does-starlight-prove


358 posted on 02/03/2009 8:52:32 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: texmexis best
Xrays travel at a speed that are magnitudes greater than the speed of light.

You didn't just say that, did you?

Cordially,

370 posted on 02/03/2009 9:59:06 AM PST by Diamond
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