That is irrelevant. You made the statement that Hawaii only issued the short form certificate, I showed that they *will* issue the long form if requested. It just takes longer to get.
But the short form may not contain all the information to determine "Natural Born" citizenship, just as it does not contain sufficient information to prove sufficient native Hawaiian ancestry. The long form contains more information on the parents, such as their place of birth as one example. One thing that even the long form doesn't show (the early 60s version anyway) is parent's nationality/citizenship.
The fact that the state department won't accept the short from, *under some conditions*, also indicates that it contains insufficient information, for *some* purposes. While they will normally accept the Hawaiian short form, they do not accept those of a few states. For example they won't take California's because it shows the place of registration as the place of birth. Hawaii's is relatively easy to file for a non hospital birth. The long form would show whether the birth was "at home" or "at a hospital". Even in '61, given the socio economic position of the Dunhams, an "at home" birth would be very unusual, whereas in the 1920s it would not have been unusual at all in much of the country. AFAIK, both of my parents were "at home" births. The hospital I was born in had it's first birth just a few years before mine, even though it had been around for several decades at that time.
BHO's situation is quite unusual for someone his age. That is a birth to a foreign father. He is probably the first president to have a foreign citizen father since, well Chester Arthur, and he hid the fact, and was not elected as President, but rather as VP, (yes I know VP has to be eligible too, since the 12th amendment (1804), well before Arthur's time). But even Arthur's father had been permanent resident for some time before his birth and continued to live in the US afterwords. BHO Sr, was presumably on a student visa, and only lived in the US until he got his Master's degree, then it was back to Kenya and his other wives (one of which was another American woman who he met while at Harvard). Like Obama, Arthur took the oath of office twice.
All other Presidents, since Martin Van Buren, have had US Citizen fathers. (MVB was born under the Articles of Confederation in 1782, so he qualified both under "natural born" and "citizen of the US at the time of the adoption of this Constitution" as was Zachary Taylor (1784).
The only proof of native born citizen status that McCain, Obama, Bob Barr, Cynthia McKinney or any other candidate needs to show is an official document issued by a state which lists a place of birth and a date of birth. PERIOD. Obama has presented that. The only legitimate legal question is whether or not the documentation that he has presented is forged or fraudulent. A subpoena for the original document and a comparison to his document should clear that up rather quickly. I’m surprised that no such subpoena has ever been issued.
So am I, but since it hasn't, that why I made the statement that no one has actually checked on his eligibility.
However McCain could not present such a certificate, because he wasn't born in a US state. He does have a certificate, and his shows him to be the son of two American Citizens, which is probably enough to be considered a Natural Born Citizen. I say probably, because no court has directly addressed the criteria for being a Natural born citizen. This is not surprising, since the situation could only have come up with regards to Chester Arthur, had the fact that his father was not naturalized until after he was born been revealed before he became VP. There actualy was a document that would have revealed this, although it was not birth certificate, such did not exist in the modern sense in those days, but rather a naturalization certificate of his father, dated about 14 years after Chester's birth.
But it has come up in the case of Barack Hussein Obama, yet no court so far has seemed to want to touch the issue with a 10 meter pole.
The only pertinent information to establish native born citizen status is one’s place of birth within the United States of America.
Mexican-American anchor babies whose parents are Mexican nationals and in the US illegally are natural born US citizens if they are born on this side of the border.
If Barack Obama was born on Waikiki Beach and delivered by a midwife, he’s a Natural Born Citizen.
Under the US Code, the only children born in the US who aren’t Natural Born Citizens are the children of foreign ambassadors and foreign embassy staff.
Title 8/Section 1401 of the US Code defines “Nationals and Citizens of the United States at birth.”
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/1401.html