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To: El Gato
"At minimum it was an image that was altered, thus making it invalid, as stated on the document itself."

The image on the internet is intended for the public. It isn't being used in an official capacity. There is no reason to assume the photographs are altered.

"But it can't certify was is not on it."

But the data on it is enough.

"The US State Department will not accept a short form certificate from some states, or from any state if the time between the birth and the registration date is more than a year. In those cases they insist on the long form. Why? Because the short form is much more subject to being altered, and they want to check the reason for the late filing, because a late filing is also more apt to be fraudulent."

Which does not apply to Hawaii and Obama's certificate, does it?

116 posted on 01/26/2009 11:08:25 AM PST by mlo
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To: mlo
Which does not apply to Hawaii and Obama's certificate, does it?

That would depend on what information a court would need to determine "Natural Born Citizenship". Even the "long form" might not be sufficient for that. Unless it shows a birth outside the US.

151 posted on 01/26/2009 6:13:54 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: mlo
The image on the internet is intended for the public. It isn't being used in an official capacity. There is no reason to assume the photographs are altered.

Actualy there is, but let that go for now.

No birth record or abstract thereof has been presented for the official purposes of determining eligibility to the office of President. That is *one* of the issues. The other being his birth to foreign national, not even a permanent resident alien. No court has examined either issue, AFAIK.

152 posted on 01/26/2009 6:17:10 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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