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To: dilvish
The analogy to Truman is perfect. He wasn’t contemplating genocide, merely the killing of about 1/4 million people, yet he stopped to consider. And yet here you are saying genocide shouldn’t even be stopped to consider about.

It really isn’t a hippie show. You like to call it that, but you’re wrong.


Really? The analogy to Truman is perfect? At what point during World War II were Americans whittled down to 40,000 or so people with the certainty of extinction unless they nuked Japan? Never, you say? Well then, I guess the analogy to Truman isn't so great after all. Things are a bit different when you're facing extinction. That was the whole point.

You do bring up a good point about the show, though. Originally, it was almost the anti-hippie show. It was basically the US Navy in space, fighting for humanity's very survival against evil machines. That's why I liked the first season. It was the navel-gazing hippie writers for the show that decided that such a morally unambiguous premise was intolerable, and so started writing in ridiculous things like fighter pilots questioning whether they had the right to kill Cylons. I actually liked the idea of humanoid Cylons infiltrating the humans, but even that turned seriously ridiculous once humans started acting as if the humanoid Cylons were just people too. To illustrate the silliness of this premise, you must remember that the first time the audience ever discovered that there were humanoid Cylons aboard Galactica was when Boomer, in direct contrast to her own feelings, shot the Captain point blank in order to fulfill some hidden programming. Now, given that we know that even the human-appearing Cylons can have hidden programming that they can't control, why would any reasonable person ever trust one? They wouldn't, that's why, unless they were complete mushy-headed suckers. And that's what hippies are, including those who write for the show. It is more important to them to project their utopian ideals upon their audience than to have their characters do even the most basically reasonable thing.

I consider Hollywood's treatment of the new Battlestar Galactica to be the same as their worldview when it comes to our war against Islamic jihad: we can't criticize them or call them evil, even though we know they want to kill all of us and they infiltrate our societies in order to do so. Hippies live in a constant state of complete delusion as to the nature of reality, and the nature of man, and that is what shows most in this show.
231 posted on 01/21/2009 11:38:52 AM PST by fr_freak
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To: fr_freak

Should try reading whole paragraphs. Truman stopped to consider dropping the bomb even though it would only kill 1/4 million. You’re saying none of the BSG characters should have thought for a second about killing MILLIONS.

I think you just weren’t paying attention in the first season. Right off the bat they started talking about whether or not humanity deserved to live, and questioning whether the killings they were doing were justified (remember the Olympic Carrier).

The audience knew Boomer was a Cylon at the end of the mini-series, 13 episodes before she shot Adama. If you’ll notice the path to eventually trusting Cylons was built on necessity. Once they found out about Boomer they threw the next Sharon straight in the brig and left her there until they absolutely had to use her to purge the virus from the computer, and then put her right back in the brig until they absolutely had to use her again. It took a long time to trust her, and she was the only one they trusted until they encountered the rebels.

You’re projecting. Most of your complaints aren’t even things that happened in the show. You’ve decided it has a hidden agenda and back fill blatant misinterpretations and selectively forgotten events to make it.


238 posted on 01/21/2009 12:21:19 PM PST by dilvish
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