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To: redstateone

Lincoln is definitely better than Washington. What say you?


2 posted on 01/18/2009 5:10:30 PM PST by redstateone
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To: redstateone

Worst president of all time?


3 posted on 01/18/2009 5:12:48 PM PST by redstateone
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I disagree.

Without Washington, the USA would not exist.


9 posted on 01/18/2009 5:20:46 PM PST by MistrX
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To: redstateone

My problem with Lincoln is that he presided over the deaths of hundreds of thousands of US citizens. By any objective standard, that has to put him at the bottom of the list. Of course, few historians understand what “objective” really means.


11 posted on 01/18/2009 5:21:11 PM PST by LloydofDSS (Christian who believes in freedom.)
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To: redstateone
Lincoln is definitely better than Washington. What say you?

Yes, Linconln was better at consolidating power to a central government than Washington. Seriously, are you on the right Site?
15 posted on 01/18/2009 5:29:28 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: redstateone

FDR is a mixed bag for me. He did a great job of defeating Germany and Japan, but his failure to recognize the long term threat of communism to our future was a huge mistake. He brought avid socialists into the highest positions in the government. He also started us down the long road to socialism via the laws and programs he initiated.


18 posted on 01/18/2009 5:31:09 PM PST by LloydofDSS (Christian who believes in freedom.)
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I think we conflate “great president” with “great man”. I agree that Lincoln was our greatest president, but I also think that Washington is the greatest American — and, indeed, one of the greatest men of the Millennium. Meanwhile, I think Jefferson was a comparatively mediocre president — and a lousy person — but he was also, certainly, a great man for all of his other accomplishments.


28 posted on 01/18/2009 6:04:50 PM PST by giant sable
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To: redstateone

I disagree. Washiongton won the Revolution. Washington invented the job of President as he went. Washington commanded the troops that put down the Whiskey Rebellion personally. Lincoln was a politician. Period.


30 posted on 01/18/2009 8:21:42 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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