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California withholds tax refunds
CNN ^ | January 16, 2009 | CNN

Posted on 01/16/2009 1:49:12 PM PST by Zeddicus

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) -- California will not pay tax refunds for individuals and business that overpaid 2008 taxes, in order to conserve dwindling cash for priority payments including school spending and debt repayment required by state law, the state's controller office said Friday.

Other state checks to be postponed for 30 days include payments for vendors who provide services and products to the state government and state checks to a million aged, blind and disabled Californians to cover rent and utilities bills, State Controller John Chiang's office said in a statement.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: california; taxes
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To: kesg

This has got to be illegal. How can any governmental unit extort more in taxes than what the elected branches (most notably the Legislative Branch) authorized it to collect?

Viva La Socialist Revolucion!!

It’s happened right before our very eyes.


21 posted on 01/16/2009 2:03:47 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: Zeddicus

I assume California taxpayers owed refunds could go to court and sieze state assets. I’d start with the legislator’s desks and the furniture in the governor’s office.


22 posted on 01/16/2009 2:06:06 PM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: Zeddicus

Can we also send them an IOU?


23 posted on 01/16/2009 2:06:28 PM PST by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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To: Zeddicus

This is flat out stealing, no different than breaking into somebody’s house to take his TV. But it doesn’t completely surprise me. California tax and spenders really believe that government has an absolute right to take as much as it wants and all attempts to limit taxation (e.g. proposition 13 and the 2/3 rule in the state legislature) should be null and void.


24 posted on 01/16/2009 2:08:07 PM PST by LuxAerterna
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To: Zeddicus

Theft.


25 posted on 01/16/2009 2:08:43 PM PST by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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To: adlucem

No one will follow anyone as long as there’s college sports on television.


26 posted on 01/16/2009 2:09:19 PM PST by warchild9
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To: Zeddicus

I thought this article was going to be from The Onion. I truly did.


27 posted on 01/16/2009 2:10:38 PM PST by houeto (Material abundance without character is the path to destruction. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: AnnaZ; HangFire

STOP THIEF!!


28 posted on 01/16/2009 2:11:18 PM PST by diotima (Inertia Driven)
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To: The Great RJ
I assume California taxpayers owed refunds could go to court and sieze state assets

I'm getting a couple old growth redwoods.

29 posted on 01/16/2009 2:12:23 PM PST by byteback
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To: Zeddicus

Now remember, goverment money = helping the poor. Don’t you feel better your money is theirs now?


30 posted on 01/16/2009 2:12:33 PM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: squidly
Does this not clearly constitute a breach of the social contract, and grounds for rebellion of some kind?

Why yes, yes it does.

31 posted on 01/16/2009 2:13:02 PM PST by Centurion2000 (To protect and defend ... against all enemies, foreign and domestic .... by any means necessary.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Actually, we should all attempt to withhold the least amount for taxes from paychecks as possible. When you let them take out more than necessary you are giving them an interest free loan - even though you get your “refund” in a timely manner. I’m shocked at the number of people who deliberately withhold more than necessary from their paychecks so they can get a “big check from the government” every spring. This should be a lesson for all of them.


32 posted on 01/16/2009 2:15:00 PM PST by drjulie
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To: Zeddicus

Wait till next year. Anyone with sense will go to his employer and add more dependents to the W-2 form, so less taxes will be withheld from salaries next time around. So there will be an immediate drop in revenues.


33 posted on 01/16/2009 2:17:37 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Zeddicus

I would be tempted to send a credit sheet in for my taxes. Why would they cut the elderly first, though?. Why not cut the freebies to able bodied people that can work first. Then they get more taxes.


34 posted on 01/16/2009 2:18:27 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: drjulie

I’ve done that for several years, and paid my taxes (which are staggering, as in 7 digits) and the IRS got pissed even though I sent a check for the full amount (one penny over, actually, just to be funny) on April 14.

They demand quarterly extra -— as in I get a “refund” -— or they fine the heck out of me.


35 posted on 01/16/2009 2:19:09 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag fire.)
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To: Zeddicus

But no layoffs for Gov. EE’s Hmmm.


36 posted on 01/16/2009 2:26:43 PM PST by screaminsunshine (.)
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To: CodeToad
We need tar and feathers.

Personally, I believe you are going to need something a little more persuasive than just tar and feathers.

37 posted on 01/16/2009 2:27:27 PM PST by USMA '71
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To: Zeddicus

There has to be some potential legal problems with this.

As other have suggested, business should at least stop paying taxes until the refund is absorbed.

Basically, if CA pays the refund, it is screwed. If people don’t pay taxes to make up the difference, CA is screwed.

Maybe there will be a taxpayer revolt at the polls next fall.


38 posted on 01/16/2009 2:27:29 PM PST by CriticalJ
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To: Zeddicus

These people are destroying America.


39 posted on 01/16/2009 2:28:40 PM PST by TheWasteLand
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To: kesg
This has got to be illegal.

Nothing's illegal when leftists in government "do it." Madoff is in trouble for running his own version of "Social Security."

What people should do is simply change their state tax withholding, having nothing withheld for the state, for as long as it takes to get their refund. Of course, my guess is that THIS ACT would be considered to be "tax evasion" by the state authorities.

CA as a state is unbelievably greedy, having withheld state tax from an inheritance that I got from an uncle who lived in CA. I never lived nor worked in CA, and tried to get the withholding overturned, but they kept the money for nearly a year, and I had to file a CA state tax return to get it, even though it should have never been withheld in the first place!

Mark

40 posted on 01/16/2009 2:31:59 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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