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Bill would pull plug on reloading
The Standard Journal (Milton, PA) ^ | January 14, 2009 | Coni Marie Sheridan

Posted on 01/15/2009 6:56:58 PM PST by neverdem

Reloading ammunition in Pennsylvania may become a thing of the past if a bill currently in state legislature is passed.

According to the National Rifle Association-Institute for Legislative Action (NRA-ILA), “in the last year, so-called “encoded” or “serialized” ammunition bills have been introduced in 13 states — Arizona, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Tennessee and Washington.”

The bills, if passed, would require all bullets and cartridge cases to be marked with a code and registered to the owners in a computerized database, therefore, reloading would be outlawed.

“It (the bill) would eliminate reloading because there would be no way to serial it (the ammunition),” Rollin Anderson of Anderson’s Gun Shop in Watsontown said. “A lot of guys that handload (reload) are not happy about it.”

Anderson sells a lot of materials for ammunition reloading or handloading, which is when you reuse the cartridges to make your own ammunition.

“It would hurt a lot of industries,” he explained. There are so many components involved with reloading that would no longer be needed if the bill is passed, he said.

“Reloading is cost effective and is more accurate,” he added. “It (the bullet) holds a better pattern.”

Ammunition you already own could also be at risk as many of the bills state that people would be required to forfeit all personally owned “non-encoded” ammunition after a certain date. Therefore, reloading would actually be deemed illegal.

“I think it’s ridiculous!” commented State Rep. Merle Phillips. “They’d take away reloading which a lot of gun owners do to save money. It makes no sense.”

Along with encoding and registering ammunition, there would also be a five cent tax on each bullet sold, therefore, a minimum $2.50 increase per box would be enforced.

“People would still buy the loaded ammo, but it’s a lot more expensive (than reloading),” Anderson said.

According to the Ammunition Accountability Web site, the legislation was prompted by a “newly forming group” that includes “gun crime victims, industry representatives, law enforcement, public officials, public policy experts and more.”

However, Angus McClellan of the NRA-ILA Grassroots said, “this is a proposal by a commercial enterprise that has a patent on technology to imprint the codes. They are trying to create a demand for their product by making it mandatory. The owner of the company admitted on NRA News that his lobbying firm put up the whole thing.”

Sample legislation obtained from the Ammunition Accountability Web site states, “Bullet coding is a new and effective way for law enforcement to quickly identify persons on interest in gun crime investigations.”

State Rep. Merle Phillips disagrees.

“Criminals can still steal guns and ammunition,” he said.

Trooper Matt Burrows of the state police agrees with Phillips and said, “It (the encoding) would help, but I don’t know to what degree or how it would be implemented.”

According to McClellan, the NRA-ILA has been successfully fighting the passage of this legislation so far.

He said, “These bills are pending and will likely die at the end of the sessions, however, they will likely be reintroduced next session and sessions thereafter and will certainly pose significant threats.”

For more information on the Ammunition Accountability Act, visit www.ammunitionaccountability.com. You can also visit www.nraila.org for additional information and to find out what you can do to prevent this bill from being passed.

Coni Marie Sheridan:

570-742-9671

coni@standard-journal.com


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: ammocoding; banglist; nra; reloading
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To: neverdem

Are they going to outlaw revolvers? Not every gun spits out incriminating brass.


101 posted on 01/16/2009 8:06:35 AM PST by ScottyinTN (Stuck on dialup)
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To: do the dhue

I am not counting on Sarah making it on to the ticket in 2012. I HOPE she does though. I think she is such a genuine American conservative, and so few are out there running for offices.

There are good conservatives out there. Maybe Paul Ryan, from my state, I have only heard good things about him and his politics. He’s not well known outside of WI though.

I saw Fred Thompson on Fox recently and he looks pretty good to me. I really liked him best until he was out of the race.

I LOVE Cheney. He’s such a tough old guy, and has a very strong and steady demeanor. I wish he were a lot younger so he could have run this time or next. I loved it when he told Old Leaky Leahey to go f himself! Cheney is a great guy.

I also like your idea of Petraeus! That would make the libs go totally insane!

With the pleasant surprise of Sarah this year, who knows what other Reaganesque person might be on the national scene by 2012.

I am waiting for Joe the Plumber to announce any candidacy for any office, so I can send him campaign money. He is like Sarah, a real regular American conservative.

How about Sarah/Joe 2012. I’d vote for that in a second.


102 posted on 01/16/2009 9:39:12 AM PST by TheConservativeParty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not why the ship was built." by The First Gal of AK)
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To: Liberty Valance

I will stop reloading when they pry the handle of my RCBS Rock Chucker reloading press from my cold, dead hands.


103 posted on 01/16/2009 9:45:09 AM PST by Brucifer (Proud member of the Double Secret Reloading Underground.)
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To: TheConservativeParty
I am not big on Ron Paul. He was calling for a pull out of our Troops. The way I see it, Bush's course on the War is strong and steady. After getting a Intel Briefing, Obama seemed to see it more like Bush. The biggest that shows me that is Obama kept Gates. I hear Paul, but I don't think he is right with Iraq.

Cheney is the man. I love him. I wish he would take .... I was going to start a list of who Cheney should take hunting. But I am not going to do that. It just aint right. So, I will just play a little music to calm me nerves. http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=tqJUn8vJg1c . There, I feel better.

Yea, Joe the Plumber would be worth a shot. "He is not a Lawyer. He is not a Politician. He is just a common man. Are you tired of fork tongued politicians? Vote for Joe the Plumber. Bring some common sense back to DC." With a picture of Thomas Paine and the book Common Sense in the background. I am just dreaming here. Sorry. But yea, Sarah Joe would be fun in 12.

I was thinking though Petraeus/Palin would be strong. If Obama does not respond properly to a terrorist attack here in the States, a guy like Petraeus may be favored. I would hate to see that happen, but I think the terrorist will test Obama. How he responds will be significant.

104 posted on 01/16/2009 6:33:22 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: do the dhue

Just in case you misread my previous post, I listed Paul RYAN as a good conservative, not Ron Paul, who has his good qualities (I like his vast knowledge of history and The Constitution for example). But Ron Paul is a bit too, oh I don’t know, too Ron Paulish.

LOL there are several persons Cheney should take hunting, but they’re all liberal pansies who are afraid of guns.

You are right, esp if we are attacked again, and I do think we are a huge target now with Wimpy as pres, I think Palin and Petraeus would be marvelous in 2012.


105 posted on 01/17/2009 7:51:03 AM PST by TheConservativeParty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not why the ship was built." by The First Gal of AK)
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To: neverdem

The gun grabbing begins.


106 posted on 01/17/2009 7:55:01 AM PST by Lady GOP
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To: TheConservativeParty
"I hate these commie bastards. They never, ever give up. Liberalism truly is a mental disorder. They’ll take my freedom only from my cold dead hands. What a sorry mess our country has become. Ruined by socialists already, what happens when a marxist usurper is president? All hell’s gonna break loose."

My sentiments exactly!

107 posted on 01/17/2009 7:56:06 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound

I shall mark Black Tuesday with a trip to buy more ammo and a look at the fine guns room to see if there are more gems there I can afford. That made me feel better in November. I do think Zero will go after the 2nd Amendment with a vengeance.

I will have a total media black out Tueday. I will consider the next 4 years to be the time in which the White House was occupied by someone too dishonest to show he even is a US natural citizen. Gee, really don’t think it’s a lot to ask that a president be native born and prove it, but for The One, we dare not ask such a thing.

I despise him and his crooked way of life. He is slicker than Willie. Sheeple think Zero is a man god, clean as the driven snow, when he is a dirty Chicago Thug! At least Clinton was born here and we knew it for sure. Arg...how will we ever get through this....prayer I guess.


108 posted on 01/17/2009 8:08:38 AM PST by TheConservativeParty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not why the ship was built." by The First Gal of AK)
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To: TheConservativeParty
LOL Geesh, what does one say? I AM VERY SORRY!! I thought you meant Ron Paul. My bad. Huge foul. Over here. On me.

That was a Barkley type like foul. My bad. That is what can happen when a lysdexic reads fast.

LOL - (liberal pansies)

According to Biden, we are a huge target now.

109 posted on 01/17/2009 8:12:04 AM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: neverdem

I wonder what that archaic phrase “shall not be infringed” means.


110 posted on 01/17/2009 8:19:08 AM PST by gitmo (I am the latte-sipping, NYT-reading, Volvo-driving, no-gun-owning, effete, PC, arrogant liberal. -BO)
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To: gitmo
I figger it must originate from fabric making and tailoring.


111 posted on 01/17/2009 8:22:55 AM PST by Revolting cat! (After all is said and done I'm goodier goodier than you!)
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To: Revolting cat!

Oh. That style must have been unpopular in the 18th century.


112 posted on 01/17/2009 8:29:49 AM PST by gitmo (I am the latte-sipping, NYT-reading, Volvo-driving, no-gun-owning, effete, PC, arrogant liberal. -BO)
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To: neverdem
this is a proposal by a commercial enterprise that has a patent on technology to imprint the codes. They are trying to create a demand for their product by making it mandatory.”

A surprising number of laws get started this way, often stupid ones.

113 posted on 01/17/2009 9:08:35 AM PST by wideminded
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To: do the dhue

Wasn’t sure if you were just talking about Ron Paul.
He has ardent supporters, as you know.
Although he came across as a bit loony at the early debates, I do think he has a vast amount of knowledge packed in his brain. I like how he clings to The Constitution. I find myself figuratively doing so, since Nov.4th. It is our last hope, now that the rest of gov’t seems to be corrupt beyond repair.

I like your picture of the foul. I have not yet tried to post pictures. I found a thread on how to post pics and saved it for later use. I have a funny picture of my horse sticking his tongue out that I’d like to post when appropriate.


114 posted on 01/17/2009 4:57:01 PM PST by TheConservativeParty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not why the ship was built." by The First Gal of AK)
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To: TheConservativeParty
Yea, I like to use the Barkley pic when I make a huge mistake. I liked the way Barkley would foul a guy. He let you know he was in the paint. So, when I make a big foul, I pull Charles out.

I like some of the thing Paul said, but he went the wrong way with Iraq. I'll hold that against a candidate.

Our Constitution is and has been under attack. Now, the bad guys have the high ground. We gotta fight uphill and retake ground we once owned, because we let a bunch of RINOs run the show. We must purge ourselves of the dreaded RINO


I call this one: Too Many RINOs on my turf

115 posted on 01/17/2009 5:21:57 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: do the dhue

We need some Rino-B-Gone.

In the NRA mag I got in the mail today, LaPierre had a hopeful thought about the election. He said that if you look at the reaction of gun owners to the election, regarding the huge surge in sales of all kinds of gun items, he thinks this indicates an awakening of sorts by the electorate (not the libtards of course) that may bring forth more elected conservatives in 2010 and 2012.

He says last time any surge like this happened was in the 1990’s. I think the surge in sales is much higher now. My gun shop has been crazy busy since Nov.4th. Those guys are working their tails off. Going to see them on Tuesday. I can be with ‘my peeps’ there for a while and make the day better.


116 posted on 01/17/2009 5:46:11 PM PST by TheConservativeParty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not why the ship was built." by The First Gal of AK)
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To: TheConservativeParty
Yep, prices are going up too.

I think ammo is the key though.

www.bigdogammo.com

check that site out for some hard hitting stuff (see 12G specialty ammo and more). I think like this: if you must, leave a mark.

Some of this stuff will make any muzzy fighter hide behind his woman and his children while he leave skid marks in his draws.

Also, I am satisfied with all purchases from this site.

117 posted on 01/17/2009 6:43:22 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: do the dhue

Read this gem on FR recently, “Lead trumps gold every time.”
It’s better than money. Thanks for the tip on the .com!


118 posted on 01/17/2009 7:20:15 PM PST by TheConservativeParty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not why the ship was built." by The First Gal of AK)
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To: TheConservativeParty

lol

that is good. I will remember that one.


119 posted on 01/17/2009 8:44:58 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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