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Vehicle Scrappage Bill Introduced in Both US Senate and House (Cash for Clunkers)
www.greencarcongress.com ^ | 1-14-2009 | Staff

Posted on 01/15/2009 5:32:50 AM PST by Red Badger

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To: raybbr

You sell you ‘95 Jetta on eBay or Craigslist, take some of the money and go buy a 88 Oldsmobile anything, trade it in along with the money that you got for your 95 on a NEW Jetta AND for $4500 voucher........


21 posted on 01/15/2009 5:47:07 AM PST by Red Badger (I was sad because I had no shoes to throw, until I met a reporter who had no feet.....)
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To: raybbr

>> I have a ‘95 Jetta that gets 32mpg. How can I upgrade from there?

Sorry, pal. Obama ‘n Nancy drew a circle around us gas-guzzlers that shut YOU out. Sucks to be environmentally responsible, don’t it?

I’ll bet you’re all caught up on your mortgage, too, so there goes that windfall.

You poor chump. The only benefits you’ll get from all that personal accountability is being able to hold your head up high, respect yourself, and sleep at night. No gubmint money 4U, though.

/justkiddingofcourse


22 posted on 01/15/2009 5:47:09 AM PST by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Not a bad idea.

I'll take that under advisement. ;)

23 posted on 01/15/2009 5:47:43 AM PST by G.Mason (If you surrender your right to own a gun, you surrender your right to your life)
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To: Red Badger

no one could ever convince me to let go of my ‘70 F100, completely overhauled for $2,500 (i did the work)...will pull another truck across country no problem...to go $35,000 in debt for a new truck thet gets about 4 more mpg...351 windsor, flat tops, rv cam, offenhauser dual port manifold, eldebrock-jetted slightly lean on the primaries, msd ignition and a ZF 5 speed from a ‘92 F250. I’ve gone Cuba and am staying that way...been in debt before and never plan to live under that sword again.


24 posted on 01/15/2009 5:48:10 AM PST by usshadley (crying racism--the new "last refuge of the scoundrel")
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To: Red Badger
Go here to look up your car's mileage and pollution score!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This could be fun.

25 posted on 01/15/2009 5:49:41 AM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: Red Badger
I am the original owner of a 1987 F-150 4WD longbed V8. The truck has just over 100K ORIGINAL miles on it, and has never given me an ounce of trouble, and most important of all it has long since been PAID OFF.

Now the government want's me to turn it in so they can give me a $4500 voucher toward the purchase of a newer truck from a company that may not exist at the end of this year? In today's economy?

F'n morons.

26 posted on 01/15/2009 5:50:43 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: raybbr

That’s one of my bookmarks............


27 posted on 01/15/2009 5:51:02 AM PST by Red Badger (I was sad because I had no shoes to throw, until I met a reporter who had no feet.....)
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To: SumProVita
It’s not hard for me to gauge. It is NOT financially feasible for me to purchase a new vehicle given the present economy and the overwhelming corruption and stupidity of Congress.

Me neither. The full sized van I drive would handle a new engine and tranny rebuild, some body work and paint and go another 100K (nearly 300K now), far, far cheaper than a used vehicle, and still do the job sans computer (it is a '75). I'd retain the ability to work on it as well.

I have been weighing that against buying a used van which would (equivalent vehicle) probably require all that and more before the next 100K miles, and likely be something I could not work on myself. Not too tough to figure that one out.

28 posted on 01/15/2009 5:51:24 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Red Badger

My old clunker apparently doesn’t qualify:

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/calculatorSelectEngine.jsp?year=1987&make=Lincoln&model=Town%20Car

Unless the CAFE figures are significantly lower. When new it had a combined EPA of 21 MPG. Today, I doubt it’s getting 10 MPG, and it just isn’t worth the cost of repairing it to get better fuel mileage.

Anybody have a link to the ‘when new’ CAFE MPG for my 1987 Lincoln Town Car? I did a little googling, but came up enpty.


29 posted on 01/15/2009 5:51:57 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Red Badger

Woo hoo!!

MORE tax dollars to throw away on junk policy!!

If you wonder why your taxes are so high (and about to go a lot higher!), junk programs like these are the reason. If this is the most important thing that the Congress has on its agenda, adjourn them now and save the taxpayers several boatloads of money. Send the politicians home until there is an actual issue that, under the Constitution, they are able to address!!


30 posted on 01/15/2009 5:52:48 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: savedbygrace

The link you give HAS the “When New” EPA mileage.........


31 posted on 01/15/2009 5:53:20 AM PST by Red Badger (I was sad because I had no shoes to throw, until I met a reporter who had no feet.....)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I understand completely. It’s a common sense thing...something that is woefully missing in Congress right now.


32 posted on 01/15/2009 5:53:41 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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To: Nervous Tick
Sorry, pal. Obama ‘n Nancy drew a circle around us gas-guzzlers that shut YOU out. Sucks to be environmentally responsible, don’t it?

LOL! It wasn't the environment that caught my attention. It was the $1200 price.

I’ll bet you’re all caught up on your mortgage, too, so there goes that windfall.

Sigh!

You poor chump. The only benefits you’ll get from all that personal accountability is being able to hold your head up high, respect yourself, and sleep at night. No gubmint money 4U, though.

Don't forget I get to wag my tail as they raise their hand to slap me.

/justkiddingofcourse

Kind of, I know.

33 posted on 01/15/2009 5:54:24 AM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: raybbr

But that doesn’t give you the CAFE numbers, just EPA.


34 posted on 01/15/2009 5:54:24 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: SumProVita

Aw come on now, all of us a rich. That’s why they put a $45,000 limit on the car you could buy...they just know all of us won’t settle for anything less than a $50,000 vehicle, after all it’s what they would buy.

Seriously, there has never been, nor will there ever be a time when I would consider buying a car that cost that kind of money. I could buy a house and land for that.


35 posted on 01/15/2009 5:54:32 AM PST by pepperdog (The world has gone crazy.)
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So, I buy an old clunker for $1000, trade it in and get $4500?..............

Neighboring Cathedral City recently had a $100 "no questions asked" gun buyback program; TV news showed mostly old white guys laughingly turning in rusty, worthless, inoperative pistols.

Another feel-good use of tax dollars...

36 posted on 01/15/2009 5:54:46 AM PST by ErnBatavia (What's worse..a President Obama or a Burl Ives Christmas song collection?..... the jury's still out)
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To: Red Badger

But the article says you have to use the CAFE fuel mileage number, which, it says, is usually lower than the EPA number.


37 posted on 01/15/2009 5:56:54 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: savedbygrace

About a third way down the page here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAFE_standards


38 posted on 01/15/2009 5:58:35 AM PST by Red Badger (I was sad because I had no shoes to throw, until I met a reporter who had no feet.....)
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To: savedbygrace

For 1987, the CAFE standard for passenger cars was 26 mpg..........


39 posted on 01/15/2009 6:00:02 AM PST by Red Badger (I was sad because I had no shoes to throw, until I met a reporter who had no feet.....)
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To: pepperdog

MOST of our cars have been used, previously wrecked (but not in vital areas) and restored by an excellent mechanic friend. They have been both economical and dependable....and nice to look at.


40 posted on 01/15/2009 6:00:28 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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