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To: justa-hairyape
Check this one out. Crane Lake Minnesota. They bottomed out this morning at - 41.8 F. There previous record for this date was - 14.0 F in 1998. They beat their record for this date by 27.8 F degrees.

I would say that is probably a new station. There is no way -14F would be a record if records had been kept at that location for the last 100+ years.

For the rest of you (and I see this tripe every time it gets cold)...Isolated arctic air intrusions do not discount global warming. Even in the warmest of years in the 1997-1998 years...it got COLD in the winter time. What discounts global warming is the long-term climate averages falling. So...stop acting all silly every time an arctic airmass breaks off from the Yukon. It gets cold in Canada this time of year and it heads south...even IF the plant was warming it would still do that. Otherwise...when places start setting record highs during the winter...you will be forced to accept global warming using the same logic.

You can't have your cake and eat it too.

61 posted on 01/14/2009 8:17:46 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: NELSON111
I would say that is probably a new station. There is no way -14F would be a record if records had been kept at that location for the last 100+ years.

That was just a worse case example. There was numerous records broken this morning. Some daily records are falling in Canada too. More to follow this week.

What discounts global warming is the long-term climate averages falling.

So how many people must die before you admit you are wrong ?

Flu and winter freeze set to kill thousands

65 posted on 01/14/2009 3:35:21 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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